Captain John Alexander MACKENZIE, M.C., 2 Gloucestershire Regiment

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  1. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Intriguing ref in the last sentence of this MC recommendation...

    9th Infantry Brigade
    Third Division
    II Corps
    Unit 2nd Battalion, The Gloucestershire Regiment

    Captain John Alexander MACKENZIE

    For conspicuous daring and resource.

    Captain Mackenzie with two men started off on a listening patrol in front of the German lines, on the evening of 15 Jan 1940, near ZEURANGE. After going about half a mile and before reaching his lying up place, he became aware that a German patrol about 20 strong was approaching him. With great presence of mind he allowed the leading German to approach within 10 yards when he fired his Thompson M.G. The two leading Germans fell and the rest scattered. He then withdrew with his party unmolested to the British posts. Three hours later, after obtaining permission from his C.O., with great daring he led a strong battle patrol out into the same area with a view to securing the Germans or German, alive or dead. Three hours later he returned to the British lines with one dead German. Through both operations he showed skill, judgement and leadership, with the result that there were no British casualties.

    This is believed to be the first German accounted for by the Infantry of the B.E.F.

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  2. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    A nice find Diane.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Thanks Tom, amazing what is stumbled upon.

    Andy, I wonder too if this first was confirmed. Understandable that another patrol was allowed back to find proof - if this was indeed thought to be the first such fatal encounter.
     
  5. dbf

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  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for the mentioned appendix when I've copied the Bde diaries.
     
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  7. dbf

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    Andy what are the names of the ORs L/Cpl ? and Pte Askin? Nice to see them actually added to the Diary. Wonder if they got a Mention for the patrol.
     
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Or Drawneek?
    Found a couple of refs when googling, one unfortunately seems to be now defunct. CASSEL May 1940
    from this ? Officers Died

    The other ... an attachment from this, which I must take some time to fully read, looks really good link; wonder what more is in the book referenced - which seems to be

    Cap of Honour - The 300 Years of the Gloucestershire Regiment, David Scott Daniell, 1975, Sutton Publishing Ltd

    Anyone have it? Cap of Honour: 300 Years of the Gloucestershire Regiment: Amazon.co.uk: David Scott Daniell: Books
     

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  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I don't know how you do it. I think they may have been over looked:

    The "Phoney War" or "Sitzkrieg" of late 1939 and early 1940 on the Western Front involved occasional actions in which the enemy were engaged in the form of patrols, raids and counter-raids. The second Military Cross awarded during the war went to Lieutenant J.A. Mackenzie for his "skill, judgement and leadership" when his three-man patrol clashed with and drove back a larger German force on 13th/14th January. The first Military Medal of the war to be awarded to a Territorial soldier went to Sergeant G.H. Adlam of 5th Battalion for his gallantry while repelling a German raid on his post on 4th April.


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    That said they have got the date wrong and I know a Lt. Cresswell from the regiment got a MC at the time of the Cassel action and I can't find his citation along with a couple of others from the Glosters from Cassel.
     
  11. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Aye, I was thinking along the lines of Mention, ie in Despatches and we know the state of those in TNA records ... couldn't find anything for Drawneek, too tired to look for t'other. :)

    So, fingers crossed someone can do a look-up in the book ... I'd love to know what else was referenced.
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Lt. (A/Capt.) J A Mackenzie was OC 4 Platoon, HQ Company and was on UK leave at the start of hostilities - 10th May 1940. There is not other mention of him within the units war diary.

    Looking at the second recommendation I don't think he made it back to his battalion after returning to France. It looks like he hooked up with the Beauman Division for the rest of the month until evacuation.
     
  13. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Di, Cap of Honour (a whole history, not just WW2, so it's a bit brief) pretty much quotes the citation. The only added detail is that he returned from the first patrol and sought permission from the CO to take a fighting patrol back to recover a body for identification. The book also says the action was on 13 Jan and the German patrol was 'about thirty' strong.
     
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  14. dbf

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    Andrew thank you very much indeed for that additional info.
    Was wondering just how full the detail might have been given that the book covers 300 years. So no mention of the ORs, what a pity, but par for the course. At least the Diary has noted their names for posterity.
    Cheers
    Diane
     
  15. Ted99

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  16. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Hello, Ted, and thank you for the confirmation. I don't know if you've had a look round the site yet but there's a lot of interest in the BEF, their efforts and sacrifices are appreciated.
     
  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Ted welcome to the forum
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Yes, it was L/Cpl Edward Drawneek (my father). He recovered a pistol from one of the German soldiers and I remember seeing it many years ago in a display case at the Gloucestershire Regimental museum. He was mentioned in dispatches for it.

    He was captured soon after and spent the rest of the war in a couple of prisoner of war camps in Poland.

    Funny what you miss on here sometimes - A belated thanks for the additional infomation Ted. Do you have any other additional info on his time with the BEF?
     

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