Can anyone help me understand the regiment? Fallschirmjäger at Cassino.

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  1. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Hi can anyone please help? Trying to understand this Regiment. 14 Komp 3rd Regiment fallschirmjäger. All I can find on 14 Komp is anti tank company and 3rd Regiment was an elite parachute Regiment. Can anyone help me with this please? This is my great uncle Paul who died at Cassino. I really appreciate any help.
     

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  2. Aixman

    Aixman War Establishment addict Patron

    The German term "Regiment" is different from the British. It is comparable to a British Brigade, with 3 Bataillone (battalions) with 4 Kompanien (companies) each (I. Bn: 1. - 4. Kp., II Bn: 5. - 88. Kp., III. Bn.: 9. - 12. Kp.). Companies higher than No. 12 are "specialists", normally only one Kompanie of its kind per Regiment, but several different companies (e.g.: Werfer (mortar) or Flak (anti-aircraft or Infanteriegeschütz (kind of artillery)) per Regiment possible. 15. Kompanie was a Pionierkompanie (engineers).
    In some cases, there was at times a fourth (IV.) battalion with companies Nos. 13. - 16. Kompanie), which seems to apply to this Regiment at a certain period. So it is possible that your great uncle belonged to a Fallschirmjägerkompanie.

    It is a long time since having dealt with German formations, and I haven't got these books and notes at hand. By memory, 14. Kompanie for Panzerjäger might be correct unless there was a fourth battalion.

    You can possibly apply for his service papers at
    WASt - Wehrmachtsauskunftsstelle
    Auskunft bei der Deutschen Dienststelle (WASt) beantragen - Amt24

    If you need help for this re. German language, send me a private message.

    Be warned! They are famous for delayed answers. Years ago, a friend of mine waited about a year or so. For no more answers than he had received already from my notes ...
    Edit: typos
     
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  3. hucks216

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  4. Owen

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    They get 2 mentions in the ATB book 'The Battles of Monte Cassino Then & Now' by Plowman & Rowe.

    Page 152.. 'elements of the 14 Panzerjäger-Kompanie , the regiment's anti-tank unit , who had disassembled some of their guns and carried them around to the Hotel des Roses..'

    Page 320.. 'Finally around 7pm , Oberst Heilmann of Fallschirmjäger-Regiment 3 , having scraped together what reserves he could and with 14 men from the 14 . (Panzer-jäger-) Kompanie , launched another assault on the Poles on the southern slope of Point 593 , now held by only one officer and seven men. After a furious bout of hand-to-hand fighting the Poles were forced to withdraw.'
     
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  5. hucks216

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  6. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Point593 is a well known position in the Cassino battles and is the site of the Polish 3rd Carpathian Division Memorial
     
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  7. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Thank you all so much. What a superb response. I'm so grateful. I've got loads here to carry on with. I'm also waiting on the BundesArchiv with details of my grandad who was in the Luftwaffe, shot down over England and ended up in POW camp in Scotland. Married my Glaswegian granny. I may have to come back and ask for more help so just want to say thanks again!
     
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  8. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    How much do you know about your grandad? There's a series of books available that give details of every Luftwaffe aircraft shot down over UK soil including crew names etc.
     
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  9. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Long Post Alert! Hi, do you know i know absolutely nothing. I've searched Ancestry and come up with zero hence the approach to BArchiv but I'm trying to be optimistic. They were a family from East Prussia. One brother killed at Cassino as my earlier post. One brother killed on the Eastern Front I managed to get that info. A sister shot by the Russians at 16 and my GGrandad shot by the Poles. My GGrandma starved in Neustrelitz camp. My grandad died when I was young and no one spoke about him afterwards. I only know that he was in the LW and was in a POW camp in Scotland having been shot down allegedly over England. I know which farm he worked on in 1949. But I'd love to know about his life before us! Please can you tell me about the book? I work in the library service so its maybe something I can get hold of? Thanks so much for replying and sorry for the life story!
     
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  10. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    The series of books are these ones - Luftwaffe Crash Archive - with each one covering a set date period. If he shared the same name as the one killed at Cassino then he isn't listed which means he wasn't shot down over UK soil.
     
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  11. Owen

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    Start a new thread for your Grandad .
     
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  12. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Thanks Owen
    Should I put it in Third Reich? Regards Elizabeth
     
  13. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Oh Hucks thanks, yes he was Herbert Schareina. The mystery deepens. Thank you for checking. Its much appreciated - Elizabeth
     
  14. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Herbert Schareina
    1914–1975
    BIRTH 19 FEB 1914 • Gallinden Osterode/ostpreußen
    DEATH 15 SEP 1975 • Glasgow

    Spouse: Annie Thomson McArthur Paton Thomson
    Father: Ferdinand Schareina
    Mother: Caroline Reinholz
    Birth: 19 Feb 1914 Osterode, Nordhausen, Thüringen, Germany
    Death: 15 Sep 1975 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

    TD

    I know its your tree details but in order for other members to hopefully find other details then it will help to have these details available
     
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  15. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    I wish I had known this when I visited with several military groups. A Named German soldier who fought and fell at Pt 593 and buried in the Cassino war cemetery.

    Point 593 is easy to visit - but a bit of a climb unless you get the key to the car barrier from the monks. The motivation, training and ethos of the German paratroops was something the British military was interested in.

    I made this video from photos from a battlefield study led by the padre of 1st RHA to explore the moral dimension of the war in Italy and is cut with contemporary images. Shots of Pt 593 appear at 1:53 You will also see the German cemetery where your relative is buried.
     
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  16. Owen

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  17. Eallen1968

    Eallen1968 Member

    Wow! I really need to go there. My husband and son have visited Ypres and a lot of the memorials and cemeteries in France. But this is something I would have to do. Thank you for sharing.
     
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  19. Owen

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  20. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    I'm not sure that Volksbund have plans of their cemeteries on line. He might well be sharing his grave (Block 25 Grave 119) with 2 or 3 other men depending on how they decided to bury them.
     
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