Camera in Colditz by Ron Baybutt

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by PsyWar.Org, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Bit of a longshot here. But does anyone here know Ron Baybutt, the author of Camera in Colditz? He has/had a marvellous collection of photographs taken by a local Colditz photographer showing various escape attempts from the castle.

    I would really like to contact Ron about using one of his photographs in my book. So far I've not had much luck tracking him down. Just thought he might be well known amongst military historians or collectors that frequent these forums.

    Lee
     
  2. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

  3. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Thanks Phil. I have previously tried contacting the publisher without any success unfortunately. I also managed to track down the co-author of the book but he had lost contact with Ron Baybutt some years ago.

    The Colditz museum have a number of similiar photographs in their archives but not the particular one I need.

    So trying all avenues I can think of at the moment.
     
  4. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

  5. burstie

    burstie Junior Member

    tester
     
  6. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Its a great book hope you can find some help in your search.
     
  7. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Its a great book hope you can find some help in your search.

    Sadly I drew a blank on trying to contact Ron Baybutt. I even tried writing to everyone with that name from the UK election roll but still no joy.

    Lee
     
  8. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Sadly I drew a blank on trying to contact Ron Baybutt. I even tried writing to everyone with that name from the UK election roll but still no joy.

    Lee
    Hi Lee, had you considered he may no longer be with us? could explain all the dead(pardon the pun;) ) ends, and which picture was it when I can find my copy odf the book I will have a look regards, Jason
     
  9. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Hi Lee, had you considered he may no longer be with us? could explain all the dead(pardon the pun;) ) ends, and which picture was it when I can find my copy odf the book I will have a look regards, Jason

    Hi Jason, That did indeed pass my mind but then that begs the question "What happened to the collection of Colditz photos?" It's such an important archive, I would have thought there would have been some publicity about its sale. Or perhaps WWII historians or the collector community would know its current whereabouts?

    I don't have my copy of the book to hand at the moment but its a photograph of a forged Auweis that was smuggled in Colditz through the post, concealed inside a wooden calendar.

    The main issue for me is obtaining copyright permission to reproduce the photo and hopefully obtaining a high resolution scan from a photographic print, rather than from the half-toned version in the book.

    Lee
     
  10. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Lee, you have a good point given the scale of the collection there must be some record out there somewhere and someone who has the rights etc will be intrested if you find anything.And you have in mentioning the matter of a original print given me an idea in some of my own research cheers mate,Jason
     
  11. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Lee,

    I was told that the Burgermeister (Mayor) had a lot of input with the renovation and setting up of the museum.
    Perhaps it is worth searching for details on the web and sending an email.

    Willkommen auf der offiziellen Homepage der Stadt Colditz This is the Town Hall website which has a direct hyperlink for contact. This may be of help in contacting the Mayor Manfred Heinz.

    STOP PRESS : Colditz Gateway to Saxony Has a couple of contacts that may be of help.

    I wish you well.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  12. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Lee,

    I was told that the Burgermeister (Mayor) had a lot of input with the renovation and setting up of the museum.
    Perhaps it is worth searching for details on the web and sending an email.

    Willkommen auf der offiziellen Homepage der Stadt Colditz This is the Town Hall website which has a direct hyperlink for contact. This may be of help in contacting the Mayor Manfred Heinz.

    STOP PRESS : Colditz Gateway to Saxony Has a couple of contacts that may be of help.

    I wish you well.

    Regards
    Tom

    Thanks Tom, Have already tried the Colditz museum :).
    They do have some photographs of a similiar nature but not the exact one I'm after unfortunately.

    It's turned into a real challenge trying to track it down. Sadly, I only have a few weeks left to find a solution as I want to publish my book ASAP.

    Lee
     
  13. StuartS

    StuartS Junior Member

    Hi
    Ron Baybut is very much alive, living in Irlam, Greater Manchester. He is 75 years old & still taking photos. I met him at an evening class a few years ago & we have been friends ever since. If you are still keen to contact him let me know & I will let you have his email address.
    Regards
    Stuart
     
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  14. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Hi
    Ron Baybut is very much alive, living in Irlam, Greater Manchester. He is 75 years old & still taking photos. I met him at an evening class a few years ago & we have been friends ever since. If you are still keen to contact him let me know & I will let you have his email address.
    Regards
    Stuart

    Stuart, many thanks for posting! Yes please I'd still very much like to get in contact with Ron. I'll send you a PM about it.

    Lee
     
  15. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    PWO, might have taken a little while but WW2talk scores again!
    Well done StuartS, especially on your first post!
    Welcome by the way.

    Mike
     
  16. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Mike, it goes to show longshots can pay off in the end, especially when you have the backing of ww2Talk! :)

    A public thank you to Stuart for stumbling across this thread and making the effort to help out.

    Lee
     
  17. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Lee,
    It's the individual members that make this forum such a superb facility but we shouldn't forget the Mods and Admin that 'lurk' in the background and keep us all in check.
    Look forward to seeing some of these Colditz photos.

    Mike
     
  18. chris,c

    chris,c Guest

    i am ron's son in law i'm sure he'd like to help
     
  19. chris,c

    chris,c Guest

    i'm ron's son in law would like to talk
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    hello Chris welcome to the forum
    any info/photos would be greatly appreciated
     

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