Call for dedicated bef forum

Discussion in 'Network Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by cameronlad, May 20, 2011.

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  1. cameronlad

    cameronlad Member

    Having read so many threads and posts recently, I can't help but notice the volume of traffic in the 1940 forum concerning everything BEF related, including renewed interest in events around Belgium, France, etc. In fact at first glance I'd say the BEF in particular appears to be one of the busiest and most enduring topic threads.

    For that reason perhaps the '1940' forum is something of a misnomer, especially since the 'PHONEY WAR', the BEF and events such as Belgium, Operation Dynamo, Dunkirk, etc, all had their root causes in and around 1938-1939.

    So... might it not be a good time for the site traffic controllers to consider a dedicated BEF forum? Or even called WW1:Part 2, since it was waged by a political and military establishment of that mentality. A dedicated new forum could serve to expand on this period in many ways. Any linked or associated threads and posts up to this point could also be rounded up and moved there to provide a unique archive not seen on other sites. Here's hoping!
     
    cameronlad, May 20, 2011
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  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That is why we set up the 1940 sub-forum.
    We called it 1940 but really it's as you've noticed really for Andy to post lots of BEF stuff.
    :)


    1940 (7 Viewing)
    The Campaign in Belgium, France and Holland' - 1940 and all that - Same war, but almost a different era.


    PS I've moved thread to Suggestions & Feedback sub-forum.
     
    Owen, May 20, 2011
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  3. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Having read so many threads and posts recently, I can't help but notice the volume of traffic in the 1940 forum concerning everything BEF related, including renewed interest in events around Belgium, France, etc. In fact at first glance I'd say the BEF in particular appears to be one of the busiest and most enduring topic threads.

    For that reason perhaps the '1940' forum is something of a misnomer, especially since the 'PHONEY WAR', the BEF and events such as Belgium, Operation Dynamo, Dunkirk, etc, all had their root causes in and around 1938-1939.

    So... might it not be a good time for the site traffic controllers to consider a dedicated BEF forum? Or even called WW1:Part 2, since it was waged by a political and military establishment of that mentality. A dedicated new forum could serve to expand on this period in many ways. Any linked or associated threads and posts up to this point could also be rounded up and moved there to provide a unique archive not seen on other sites. Here's hoping!

    Why don't we just call it the 'Andy - Drew5233 forum'?!?
     
    Steve Mac, May 20, 2011
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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    The 1940 section.
    Anyone who's mooches around quickly works out what '1940' means in our context; i.e. the whole campaign you're thinking of, up until the departure from Dunkirk (and other places - just putting that in before one of the local obsessives pops up and gets going...).

    It got called that, because the likes of Croonaert & Rich P (among others, of course) were becoming noticeable in the amount and quality of 1940-ish stuff they were discussing, and Mr Reed suggested (in February 09... we keep notes y'know) that it was getting lost in the NWE section. We'd always referred to it as 'the 1940 stuff', so 1940 it was when we agreed on a new section.

    I shall flash our backroom knickers with a post of mine from when we were considering it as a sub. It confirms that we always knew it was a technically incorrect term, but one that made sense :
    certainly more than a few on the 1940 boat. trouble is as a sub-forum it's a rather imprecise term, the best term, and we know what it means, but vague to the knowlessman as a sub-forum.

    Hmm. Battle specifics - 1940?
    Or maybe even a new proper section just called '1940'. I'm sure it'd showcase a lot of the really good stuff on here, and attract more.


    Thread announcing it here.


    So, yes, 1940 is a touch of a misnomer, but it's been a pretty solid 'hit' from day one, and hopefully will continue to be so.
    Changing it would just feel wrong, as it's become one of the firmly established headings of our little 'live magazine'
    (Is that too twee? I reckon the place is like a free and constantly expanding magazine when it's ticking over properly...).

    That, and I suspect the dangerous obsessivess, ahem, Drew, Rich, etc. would have my balls if I even thought of changing it now - they're territorial you know, and I reckon could easily turn nasty.

    ~A
     
    von Poop, May 21, 2011
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  5. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    The 1940 section.

    That, and I suspect the dangerous obsessivess, ahem, Drew, Rich, etc. would have my balls if I even thought of changing it now - they're territorial you know, and I reckon could easily turn nasty.

    ~A


    :D
     
    Steve Mac, May 21, 2011
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  6. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Can we also have a Brits in the Ardennes 44/45 sub-forum?? o_O

    ... JMAJ ... :D (=Just making a joke)
     
    stolpi, May 21, 2011
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  7. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    "good time for the site traffic controllers to consider a dedicated BEF forum?" Look, Cameronlad, why don't you do it the Capitalist way? Instead of expecting others to do that for you, you should build the new forum yourself just the way you want it to be and apply the dictum "If you build it they will come"! It worked for Kevin Costner, it can work for anyone :)
     
    Za Rodinu, May 21, 2011
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  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Can we also have a Brits in the Ardennes 44/45 sub-forum?? o_O

    ... JMAJ ... :D (=Just making a joke)

    Our minds are open... (sort of)

    If any subject reaches a kind of 'critical mass', then we're probably happy to consider new headings - but it has to be on a similar scale to the outbreak of 1940/BEF stuff to really justify it.

    If we suddenly find there's a dozen people rattling on about rambling jabberring discussing a certain area in a full-on way then, who knows. ;)
     
    von Poop, May 21, 2011
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  9. cameronlad

    cameronlad Member

    "good time for the site traffic controllers to consider a dedicated BEF forum?" Look, Cameronlad, why don't you do it the Capitalist way? Instead of expecting others to do that for you, you should build the new forum yourself just the way you want it to be and apply the dictum "If you build it they will come"! It worked for Kevin Costner, it can work for anyone :)

    Sorry if you take umbrage at members voicing constructive comments or suggestions. This is a very very good site, well mastered and regulated in the back office. It's on the up, so why would I be so petty as to set up a rival to it?
    Suggestions and improvements should always be open to consideration and debated. This site is one of the best there is for interactive debate. Your response has proved my point, even if you seem to have missed mine and ventured into personal criticism instead. Pity.
    N.B. As for building multimedia businesses: Been there, done that and still doing similar on other subjects.
     
    cameronlad, May 21, 2011
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  10. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    I don't understand your first paragraph. It wasn't me who suggested a 'dedicated BEF forum' nor did I make any mention about 'a rival to it'. I made the the 'constructive suggestion' that if you are so interested you could build a dedicated forum yourself instead of relying on others and whatever spare time they may have.

    I am sorry if there were 5 other posters in this thread including two Mods none of whom appeared thrilled at your idea, nevertheless you did not pick on anyone but me for some reason.

    If I can make another 'constructive suggestion', this forum allows setting up polls. I suggest you post one up and see how many people are interested. Then if you got sufficient numbers then you might convince the backoffice people here to support you.
     
    Za Rodinu, May 21, 2011
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  11. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Gentlemen please, I now have a headache trying to work out who means what by 'forum'.

    Shall we just leave it at the point that the admin/mod team will entertain the notion of any new section/forum, or sub-section depending on the amount of traffic/enthusiasm that is generated by the members?

    There's nothing too hard and fast about it all, but we usually get it right. Believe me, there's nowt duller than having to search for and move relevant threads over, yet it's sometimes best to cater for a trend as it's getting underway rather than to have 'subsections with potential', on the forum all quietly waiting for input.

    As I was once told: if you really want a subsection to work in, get posting. :)
     
    dbf, May 21, 2011
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  12. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    I want a Battle of Britain sub-forum within the War in the Air forum and I'm not leaving til I get it!!!! ;)





    Sorry got to leave now, as my tea is ready.........................................:D
     
    Gage, May 21, 2011
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  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Hmmmm...
     
    von Poop, May 21, 2011
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  14. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I have always maintained that the 1940 sub-forum was one of the "Jewels in the Crown" as it were of WW2talk and people like Drew, Owen,Rich et al deserve all the credit for making it so good. But it is one sub-forum amongst many, and there are other areas which have many interesting threads and posters who work away doing great things. Whilst I would take Cameronlads comments as a compliment and in the spirit that I'm sure they were written, I think the 1940 area is grand where it is. As a part of a nice place to come to talk about WW2.
     
    Gerard, May 21, 2011
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  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    hello Cameronlad


    This Forum does cover a vast swathe of threads one liner and deep level .It covers all areas of WW2 including Post War and Pre War.

    In my opinion if you just limited a forum to a single interest line you quite possibly would not receive the other campaign experts/generalists who can add articles/thoughts to a forum like WW2talk.

    If you review a number of threads from 1940 through North Africa.Europe.Pacific etc you will see many links which not only drive forum members to add their family history/research/articles but has also built a rather comprehensive history of the WW2 era under one roof.


    We have our experts and generalists who have combined to build a solid WW2 historical archive for the present and future.
     
    CL1, May 21, 2011
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  16. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I want a Battle of Britain sub-forum within the War in the Air forum and I'm not leaving til I get it!!!! ;)





    Sorry got to leave now, as my tea is ready.........................................:D
    I want a Luftwaffe sub sub forum of the Battle of Britain sub forum and I'm not letting Gage leave till I get it!!
     
    Gerard, May 21, 2011
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  17. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    On a serious note I think the whole forum has nice structural balance.
     
    Gage, May 21, 2011
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  18. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Could we have an Italian Air Force in the Battle of Britain 1940 sub forum
     
    Jedburgh22, May 21, 2011
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  19. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I'm Spartacus!

    On a serious note I think the whole forum has nice structural balance.

    Personally, I still think it's a bit of a mess, but at least we've filtered out most of the duplications and odder headings by now. Much better than it was.

    It's proved an absolute bugger over the years getting the balance of headings right. Conflicts and pitfalls aplenty while laying it out, so we tread pretty carefully now it's sort of OK - though I still sometimes fancy just three headings:


    * WW2 Stuff
    * Non WW2, but Military History, Stuff
    * Rambling on, like one periodically does on the Internet.
     
    von Poop, May 21, 2011
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  20. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    * WW2 Stuff
    * Non WW2, but Military History, Stuff
    * Rambling on, like one periodically does on the Internet.

    If only life was that simple.......
     
    Gage, May 21, 2011
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