by the left

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  1. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    this should be a really easy one.When does a soldier move off beginning with his right foot?:)
     
  2. Skip

    Skip Senior Member

    If I remember rightly you always step off with the left, throwing the right arm forward, even if the command is 'by the right', the latter meaning to keep your dressing from the right hand marker.
     
  3. bern

    bern Senior Member

    Driving the heel firmly into the ground!!!
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    After an about turn on the march, or a right turn on the march - if those count as moving off!
     
  5. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    starting off:)from a moving poition
     
  6. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Pall bearers?
     
  7. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Pall bearers?

    I stand to be corrected.
    I think that you are correct and I believe it would be the right hand side Pall bearers, who step off with the right foot.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  8. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It's either that or 'if he's half of an Inter-Services Three-Legged Race team'!

    Then again, pall bearers are unlikely to be dressing 'by the left'... where's the drill manual, and which edition are we working to: 1935, 1951 or 1965 (and I bet there's been some more since)?
     
  9. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Right Close March

    Chris
     
  10. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    Right Close March

    Chris
    right on the button Chris:)
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    One half of Pallbearers step off with a right foot. I've done it.

    Wills will know if there are any others not mentioned-He was a rupert wooden top :)
     
  12. rockape252

    rockape252 Senior Member

    Hi Drew5233,

    Quote

    "One half of Pallbearers step off with a right foot. I've done it."

    Me as well.

    The reason is to stop the coffin rocking from side to side which looks ungainly and could also cause any Headgear/Decorations to slide about or worse fall off as the pallbearers march.


    Regards, Mick D.
     
  13. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    http://drummajor.net/documents/UKDrill1935.pdf


    1935 - Thats nearly bedtime!







    Recently on ARRSE someone asked about Scots Guardsmen saluting - one described it as a leap forward with arms flailing. The usual method of standing to attention and saluting is not for us! The left leg is advanced as per stepping off, the left arm remains in the attention position, when the left foot is flat to the ground, the right leg is brought up into the horizontal position toe of boot pointing down and below the knee, at the same time the right arm is brought up into the salute none of the longest way up and shortest way down - windmill! As soon as the hand is in the salute it is dropped back into the position of attention at the same time as the right foot is 'driven' in back to the position of attention next to the advanced left foot. When we had the SLR the right arm would cross as the SLR was held forward for the hand to slap the rifle as per salute and again returned to the position as the foot is driven in one step on! All this done at Flying Scotsman speed!



    Not a Rupert Woodentop commissioned into the Line- (TA) After time expired regular



    Then we have the 'Black Mafia'


    http://www.ksw.org.uk/files/ccf/lesson%20plans/rifles-drill-manual.pdf
     
  14. Alanst500

    Alanst500 Senior Member

    When he is ina vehicle press accelerator peddle Right foot.
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    On the 11th & the 18th of November this year, as a civilian, I took part in two marches past the Cenotaph in Whitehall.

    The 1st march was on the British Legion's Remembrance Day ceremony, the 2nd was AJEX's equivalent parade.

    I wondered if a brief description of the actual marching procedure might be of interest ?

    On both parades, after forming up on Horseguards, we marched off in slow time through the Horseguards archway. As we marched through the arch, each contingent was given an "Eyes left!" command to salute the dis-mounted Horseguard soldier who was stationed within the archway.

    On the 11th, we wheeled sharp left towards Trafalgar Square but shortly after turned right again to take up our allotted places opposite the same archway.

    On the 18th it was a different story as, on emerging from the Horseguards arch, we turned sharp right into Whitehall. In previous years we have always had a band in Horseguards who's music set the pace for us. This year there was no band and so we had to wait until we were in Whitehall before we were able to really pick up the stride.

    When the National Anthem was played at the end of each ceremony those of us wearing berets did not take them off as we had previously been warned that the wearing of a beret denoted we were in uniform and therefore "Headwear will not be removed !"

    One point about marchers with no military experience.

    On both parades there were marchers who commendably took part to honour the fallen and these usually wore decorations on their right breast.

    Understandably their marching discipline was, to put it kindly, not of the best and this I find makes it difficult when one is placed immediately behind such a person.

    I wonder if there is not a case for someone in each column to give a brief pre-march instruction regarding keeping in step :)

    On the 11th we marched, I believe, 6 abreast
    On the 18th we were down to 3 abreast.

    More on the subject if anyone is at all interested.

    Ron
     
  16. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    On the 11th & the 18th of November this year, as a civilian, I took part in two marches past the Cenotaph in Whitehall.

    The 1st march was on the British Legion's Remembrance Day ceremony, the 2nd was AJEX's equivalent parade.

    I wondered if a brief description of the actual marching procedure might be of interest ?

    On both parades, after forming up on Horseguards, we marched off in slow time through the Horseguards archway. As we marched through the arch, each contingent was given an "Eyes left!" command to salute the dis-mounted Horseguard soldier who was stationed within the archway.

    On the 11th, we wheeled sharp left towards Trafalgar Square but shortly after turned right again to take up our allotted places opposite the same archway.

    On the 18th it was a different story as, on emerging from the Horseguards arch, we turned sharp right into Whitehall. In previous years we have always had a band in Horseguards who's music set the pace for us. This year there was no band and so we had to wait until we were in Whitehall before we were able to really pick up the stride.

    When the National Anthem was played at the end of each ceremony those of us wearing berets did not take them off as we had previously been warned that the wearing of a beret denoted we were in uniform and therefore "Headwear will not be removed !"

    One point about marchers with no military experience.

    On both parades there were marchers who commendably took part to honour the fallen and these usually wore decorations on their right breast.

    Understandably their marching discipline was, to put it kindly, not of the best and this I find makes it difficult when one is placed immediately behind such a person.

    I wonder if there is not a case for someone in each column to give a brief pre-march instruction regarding keeping in step :)

    On the 11th we marched, I believe, 6 abreast
    On the 18th we were down to 3 abreast.

    More on the subject if anyone is at all interested.

    Ron
    thanks so much for sharing this with us Ron,Quis Separabit.B/B2323
     
  17. chrisdoughty28

    chrisdoughty28 Junior Member

    The women claimed that parading alongside taller male recruits caused them to over-stride, a repetitive motion which, when repeated over several weeks, led them to develop spinal and pelvic injuries.
    Now, after a five-year bitter legal battle, which saw the MoD accuse the women of exaggerating their symptoms, they have been awarded more compensation than soldiers who suffered serious gunshot wounds in Afghanistan.

    [​IMG]Injured: Three women were awarded compensation for injuries suffered while trying to keep in step with their male colleagues


    According to RAF official policy, female recruits should not be expected to extend the length of their strides beyond 27in. They should also be placed at the front of any mixed squad to dictate the pace.
    But while undergoing basic training at RAF Halton in Buckinghamshire, the claimants were forced to extend their strides to 30in – the standard stride length for men on parades and marches.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512412/Female-RAF-recruits-100-000-compensation--march-like-men.html#ixzz2leaQe4e0
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    I bet there are a few out there who would wecome £100,000 for what they went through. I did 12 years and got (0) because I left before April 1975
     
  18. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    If you please, yes.
     
  19. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I wish I had read about this years ago. A veteran I knew then kindly invited me to march past the Cenotaph along with his family and old pals from the Marines. I fear I was pretty bad. We all would have been still worse if not for a tall, trim Cleese-like veteran in a bowler who took us in hand. He must have been an old sergeant-major, and his recall for the drill was splendid.
     

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