I have a rellie ~ forgive me if I can't recall chapter and verse off the top of my head at this hour ~ but, he served on L69. He was then lost with another 'WW1 vintage' sub' (Could've been another 'L'. I can check 'tomorrow', if need be) which was caught up in a Depth Charge fest, off the coast of Texal, within about twenty four hours of getting there. From what sparse details I've yet been able to find and understand, it seems like the old girl was simply unable to evade the 'Trawlers' that showered her till she spewed oil. One man survived. (How? God knows!) So this came up tonight, in an on line conversation, with a former RN chap. His opinion was, basically, that guys volunteered, in those days, to serve on Sub's and it wasn't something every man would be keen to step forward for. And that, yes; Much of the sub fleet was pretty aged. My broad question is then; What was the craic? Anyone able to give me a potted over view, please? Just so I can better get a handle on why the RN seemed to be putting guys to sea in vessels which most likely would have been scrapped in short order otherwise. Were sub's in such desperately short supply? Cheers.