British POWs in Russia??

Discussion in 'The Barracks' started by geoff501, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Posted here as it seems a little odd.
    Does anyone have any info on British POWs, wearing German uniforms, with a union flag on the sleeve, held by the Russians?
    Seems very strange to me but it arrived as a question in my email, the original comment was from a WW2 vet who seems to remember this incident in the last stages of WW2. The story further goes to say that these men were 'exchanged' for Russians previously held by Germany.
     
  2. Elven6

    Elven6 Discharged

  3. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It can't have been more than a few Geoff but the union flag suggests the British Free Corps.

    British Free Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It goes without saying that once the Russkies no longer felt threatened, they were keen to show that they had won despite most of the British being on the side of the Nazis.
     
  4. Elven6

    Elven6 Discharged

    It can't have been more than a few Geoff but the union flag suggests the British Free Corps.

    British Free Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It goes without saying that once the Russkies no longer felt threatened, they were keen to show that they had won despite most of the British being on the side of the Nazis.

    Beat ya too it :D

    Anyway I think "Russkies" is seen as a racial term now by many, along with "Tojo's" and "Kraut", by some.
     
  5. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Beat ya too it :D

    Anyway I think "Russkies" is seen as a racial term now by many, along with "Tojo's" and "Kraut", by some.

    Thank you both for the replies. Perhaps I'll try and get the vet (or 2) enlisted here.

    (I was once called a "pommie B*****", but that was in a Sydney pub, late at night)

    geoff
     
  6. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Posted here as it seems a little odd.
    Does anyone have any info on British POWs, wearing German uniforms, with a union flag on the sleeve, held by the Russians?
    Seems very strange to me but it arrived as a question in my email, the original comment was from a WW2 vet who seems to remember this incident in the last stages of WW2. The story further goes to say that these men were 'exchanged' for Russians previously held by Germany.

    It does tie in with a reply I made a couple of days ago on another thread, when I mentioned that some British POW's ended up in the SS Freikorps and the book I read said that a handful fought with the SS Nordland unit in the final days of the battle in Berlin.

    If what information you have received is accurate it ties in with the overall picture.

    Regards

    Tom
     
  7. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    A little excerpt from the C. AILSBY "The Waffen-SS in Europe 1939-1945. SS: Hell on the Eastern Front":
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    Members of the BFC Kenneth Berry (on the left) and Alfred Minchin (in center).

    PS: amazing that this shots made with samsung innov8 smartphone which have 8mpx camera :)) well done my korean friend :D
     
  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    DB,

    Thanks for the shots. I must say it is the first photo of a BFK soldier in uniform that I have seen.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  9. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    If someone needs better version of this photo - I can scan it ;)
     
  10. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    DB,
    Thanks for the shots. I must say it is the first photo of a BFK soldier in uniform that I have seen.


    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  12. Elven6

    Elven6 Discharged

    I have to admit, the uniforms are sure eyecatching!
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    How bizarre, it seems weird seiing a union flag on a SS uniform and I can think of a certain political party that would use that poster Owen.
     
  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    The Brits Who Fought For Hitler - showing on The History Channel

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    A nation reviles treachery, perhaps now more than ever. But the chronicles of recent history have ignored the most shameful episode of World War Two. The Britisches Freikorps unit of the Waffen SS served alongside the Nazis on the Eastern Front. Its members wore the death’s head insignia and took German rank. They helped defend Berlin even as Hitler retreated to his bunker. But each and every member was recruited from British, Canadian, Australian and South African soldiers who volunteered to betray their country.


    Recognising the potential propaganda value of the unit, the Nazis ordered 800 SS uniforms with Union Jack arm badges. Most Allied prisoners of war ignored or resisted recruitment tactics ranging from leaflet bombardment to bribery and torture. But some 200 Allied prisoners answered the Nazi call. Some were motivated by greed, or by sympathies with the fascist cause. Others were simply described by intelligence files of the time as of ‘weak character’, and found the opportunities offered by the Germans to drink and womanise too tempting.


    The British Free Corps was itself betrayed by one of its number who joined only to feed MI5 with information. John Brown, the quartermaster of a camp at Genshagen. As Germany collapsed, Brown’s information allowed the Allies to round up the traitors who often posed as fleeing PoWs. They were prosecuted and sentenced at court martial and treason trials. The intelligence files were quietly closed and access to the devastating information within was restricted. There was no cover-up, rather a conspiracy of indifference. For the first time on British Television, the British SS soldiers speak of their treachery, and their part in a failed German propaganda coup.
     

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