British Army Staff HQ Paris

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  1. Steve Newman

    Steve Newman Member

    Hi all,

    Was wondering if anyone could perhaps shed any light on this detachment in Paris. My grandfather served with them either being seconded or transferred to them having first been with 5th Black Watch in North Africa and Italy and then with 21 Army Group HQ from 30 May 1944 and landing with them in France on 27 July 1944.

    I would love to know where they were actually based and indeed anything anyone may be able to add would be helpful as I have scany details on them currently!

    Thanks in advance

    Steve
     
  2. Trux

    Trux 21 AG

    Voila,


    BRITISH ARMY STAFF, PARIS.
    War Establishment XIV/56/1. August 1944
    Paris was not in the British area but for a time all rail traffic to the north from the Normandy beaches had to pass through the city.

    Commander, Brigadier
    Personal Assistant, Lieutenant

    Branch of the Adjutant and Quartermaster General
    Adjutant Generals Branch
    Assistant Adjutant General
    2 X Deputy Assistant Adjutant General
    2 X Staff Captain ‘A’
    2 X interpreters (may be civilians)
    12 X clerk RASC including
    Warrant Officer Class II
    serjeant
    2 X corporal
    3 X lance corporal
    5 X clerk
    (clerks include three shorthand typists)

    Quartermaster Generals Branch
    Assistant Quartermaster General
    2 X Deputy Assistant Quartermaster General
    2 X Staff Captain ‘Q’
    9 X clerk RASC including
    staff serjant
    serjeant
    corporal
    2 X lance corporal
    4 X clerk
    (clerks include two shorthand typist)

    Attached to the Staff
    Chaplains
    Deputy Assistant Chaplain General
    clerk RASC

    Supply and Transport
    Deputy Assistant Director of Supplies and Transport
    Staff Captain
    3 X clerk RASC including
    corporal
    2 X clerk
    (clerks include a shorthand typist)

    Medical
    Deputy Assistant Director of Hygiene
    2 X Medical Officers
    3 X clerk RAMC including
    corporal
    2 X clerk

    Ordnance
    Deputy Assistant Director of Ordnance Services
    clerk RAOC

    Provost
    Deputy Provost Marshall
    Assistant Provost Marshall
    Deputy Assistant Provost Marshall
    4 X clerk RASC including
    serjeant
    lance corporal
    2 X clerk

    Welfare and Education
    Assistant Director of Army Welfare Services
    Deputy Assistant Director of Army Welfare Services
    Staff Captain (Welfare)
    Staff Officer (Education) 3rd Grade
    5 X clerk RASC including
    serjeant
    corporal
    3 X clerk
    (includes one shorthand typist)

    Judge Advocates Staff
    Major (Legal)
    Clerk RASC, shorthand typist


    Local Administrative Appointments
    Camp Commandant (Captain)
    Regimental Serjeant Major
    company quartermaster serjeant
    duty serjeant
    duty corporal
    transport serjeant RASC
    2 X corporal clerk
    clerk
    corporal driver mechanic
    driver mechanic
    2 X vehicle mechanic
    16 X drivers IC
    storeman
    2 X medical officers orderly, lance corporal
    3 X batman driver
    8 x batman (may be civilians)
    6 X orderly (may be civilians)
    10 X general dutyman (may be civilians)
    sanitary dutyman
    officers mess orderly
    visitors mess orderly
    officers mess steward, serjeant
    corporal officers mess cook
    officers mess cook
    visitors mess cook
    corporal cook
    3 X cook
    (cooks may be civilians)

    Note: 75% of clerks may be civilians)

    Transport
    6 X bicycle
    2 X motorcycle
    3 X car 2 seater 4 X 2
    4 X car 4 seater 4 X 2
    1 X car 6 seater 4 X 2
    2 X 15cwt GS
    5 X 3ton 4 X 2 GS
    6 X 3ton 4 X 2 personnel


    Attached from Movement Control Pool 21 Army Group
    Deputy Quarter Master General (Movement)
    Staff Captain (Movement)
    Lieutenant (Movement)
    3 X Rail Transport Officer
    Airfields Officer

    By early 1945 Paris was no longer on the British lines of communication and the staff was considerably reduced.

    Mike
     
  3. Steve Newman

    Steve Newman Member

    Thank you Trux. most helpful, also helps explain his posting away late in 1944 to Lines of Communication unit, if the LofC no longer went through Paris then be good reason for the change!

    Cheers
    Steve
     

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