Bike trip to Oradour Sur Glane

Discussion in 'WW2 Battlefields Today' started by Drew5233, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. BWilson

    BWilson Member

    Drew, Excellent photographs. I've considered visiting Oradour before but always demurred because of the sheer distance. Your photos have made me want to go see the town for myself. Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers

    BW

    Yeah its me <In my leathers>

    I stayed at a friends (Ex Royal Marine) B+B for bikers near Treignac for a few days and he took me there.

    It was a secondary objective as Monte Cassino was the Primary one but the weather stopped my progress at the Med so I turned round and came back.

    As we rode around the region of Limousin we came across lots of road side memorials to Resistance members that were shot by the Germans for one reason or another.

    Apparently according to my mate the whole area was heavily Resistance country and they made their way to towns and cities from that area to harrass and kill Germans then disappear back into the hills and woods of Limousin.

    It certainly was a beautiful place to ride :D
     
  2. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    I've heard that the village is no longer accessible. Anyone else heard this?
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It's a kind of historical museum site Marcus. I would find it hard to believe they have closed it. Especially the underground memorial with all the personal items found after the massacre.

    I'll ask my mate.

    Cheers
    Andy


    Just got a message from him and its still open....He took some bikers there last week mate
     
  4. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    Cheers for the update Drew. I missed your reply.

    cheers.
     
  5. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Top job Drew mate..An excellent posting...Well done my old sausage
    Sapper
     
  6. Zeppman

    Zeppman Member

    I visited this site back in the late 1990s. The new village is built next door. From the guidebook the Nazis were after another Oradour to the north from where the Resistance were operational and picked Oradour sur Glane in error.
     
  7. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Robert,

    Thank you for the link with so many photographs.

    Hard to believe that a whole town and it's population was wiped out.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  9. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    Very effective in Black & White. Very atmospheric and captures the mood.
     
  10. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    After Drews excellent postings.... It is a atrocity of such savagery that it is difficult to remove it from your mind.

    There is the Consolation, that the perpetrators of these terrible crimes were caught in the Falaise pocket. Where unimaginable horrors were visited on the Das Reich SS Panzer div trying to get away.

    The carnage went on for miles. Twisted bodies, burnt figures still standing, some up right in the tank cupola..... Blackened... Rigid...

    The men that created the horror of Orador.
     
  11. brickmaker

    brickmaker Senior Member

    I've been to Oradour twice and got the same feeling each time - very eerie (to quote Drew) a prime example of man's inhumanity to man. A visit should be compulsory for all politicians!
    DeGaulle (spelling?) decreed that the town should be left exactly as it was - hence the feeling of dereliction - the sad part is that many things will eventually rust away or decay leaving progressively less for each generation to see.
    By the way - great bike, Drew - puts my Bantam D3 to shame!
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Just bumping this thread as I'm thinking about calling in on way back up from south of France in the summer.
    How long were you looking around the ruined village for Andy ?
    I know I promised the family a non-war holiday but...well you know...some places need to be visited if in the area.
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Couple of hours IIRC. There wasn't much to read for me as it was all written in French with no English translations unfortunately.
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Well we did go back on 13th August.
    My pics can be seen here.
    It was rather busy, lots of visitors.

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  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Good to see you went - what did you think?
     
  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Noticed the cars didnt have engines.
    Wondered if they been plonked there Post-war when setting the memorial up to make it look lived in.
    Same as the 'props' like old sewing machines , cookers & beds.
    Just kept thinking all that stuff was added window dressing.
    Odd place to visit .
    Felt a bit like an old film set.
    Though mind was mulling over what we'd seen as we drove through similar villages that were still lived in & had changed over the last 69 years.
    Another thought I had was that was one village in France, there were thousands treated like that in Soviet Union that I don't even know the names of.
    Then thought about the Balkan wars on 1990 & now Syria going through similar experiences.
    A place to certainly get the brain working.
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I'd go along with most things placed post war - I think it's a bit of a shame how it's set up, I think it could be so much better regarding info and the layout.
     
  18. canuck

    canuck Token Colonial Patron

    That may be the one and only thing I'll ever agree was a good idea by DeGaulle. Oradour is high on my list of places to visit as well. Thus far, the infamous garden at the L'Abbaye Ardenne is the most eerie war site I've visited but I suspect Oradour must have that same feel.
     
  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  20. slick

    slick Junior Member

    I visited for the second time last October. I drove down in one hit from Roscoff, 9 hours, bit of a slog. I`d like to take a slower drive around the area for a few days, perhaps visiting Tulle and the spot where violette Szabo was captured. Lots of very tragic happenings around the area in 1944.
    Also went up into the new town which we missed last time, nice bakeries and bars, and very friendly locals.
     

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