Besa mounting question

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Chris C, Oct 29, 2019.

  1. Orwell1984

    Orwell1984 Senior Member

    As others have mentioned, there was an AA mount for Bren on early British tanks and Robert-w's description of it being like an Anglepoise lamp is bang on.
    The Lakeman AA mount was usually used with a Bren gun with a drum magazine
    Engines of the Red Army in WW2 - Bren Gun Mk.1 Light Machine Gun on Lakeman AA mount

    has some pictures and some modelled shots.
    It describes it as follows:
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    If you do further searching under bren aa mount or Lakeman mount, more images and discussion shows up.
    The overall conclusion is it was overly complicated and more trouble than it was worth so was soon discarded or 'lost' by tank crews.
     
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  2. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    It seems quite possible that in 1941 in the desert there was a need for mounts but by 1944, with allied forces in ascendancy and the provision of purpose-built AA Crusader tanks and more AA artillery, that they didn't think the tanks would need such a mount.

    P.S. the one piece of militaria I do own is a box for 100-round Bren gun magazines; I 'inherited' it from the former owners - who were veterans - of a cabin that my parents own. Though I have no idea where they served, or where they would have picked it up.
     
  3. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    The Matilda photoed with one in 1941 is on an exercise in Britain
     
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  4. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    Thanks for that correction Robert.
     
  5. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Your 100 round mag, apparently on a Churchill.

    Bren MG 1.jpg
     
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  6. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    Found a mention of a mounting on the White Scout Car. But that had an American .50, right? Did these use a Besa in British service or the .50?

    In response to a survey on SPs, question about what sort of MG they wanted, one AT regiment replied: "The Besa fitted in mounting similar to the White Scout Car. Failing that one Bren per SP with 100 rounds magazine. The present issue of a rifle is not satisfactory as difficult to store in the SP."
     
  7. JDKR

    JDKR Member

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  8. ceolredmonger

    ceolredmonger Member

    The headache of sorting 7.92mm for the Besa, .30-06 for the Browning M1919 and .303 for the Brens/Rifles! Or is itjust hedging bets they'll alway have at least one type?
     

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