Beltring War & Peace Show 2006 - 2012

Discussion in 'WW2 Museums. Events, & places to see.' started by Paul Reed, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. Paul Reed

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    This was our stand - plus Jeep on the right.

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  2. Paul Reed

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    Tanks on show, or rather those I managed to get to:

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  3. Paul Reed

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  5. Owen

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    Highlight for me was meeting Johnson Beharry VC

    Meeting him would have made it all worth it.
    Just read his book too.
    OK maybe next year.....
     
  6. Cpl Rootes

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    Pity I couldn't go this year. Unusual not to have a sunny Beltering though. Would have liked to have met Beharry.

    Oh well maybe next year it will be back to using the old Green Godesses to keep the dust down!
     
  7. von Poop

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    (There ain't nobody here but us chickens ;))

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  8. Owen

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    Adam,
    Can't you photo-shop out the railings behind the T34s?
    That would look spot on then.
    I wonder if Kyt will notice the 4th Ind Div staff car?
     
  9. von Poop

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    Adam,
    Can't you photo-shop out the railings behind the T34s?
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  10. Kyt

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    I wonder if Kyt will notice the 4th Ind Div staff car?

    I wonder whether it belongs to this lot:

    http://www.4thindians.co.uk/

    Nice pictures guys - christ, I always thought it would be rough going for me normally but all that mud is my worst nightmare. At least the organisers didn't wimp out like our local music festivel last week.

    That Jeep camo on VP's last picture is disgusting.
     
  11. Owen

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    No , here's their calander.
    Events we will be attending in 2007
    We had one of their members here awhile ago, "Redrat" I think.

    Adam, bloomin 'eck! that de-railing was spot on, can't tell there was something there at all.
     
  12. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Nice photos Adam. I regret not getting round properly this year, but the early part of my week got FUBAR so I was stuck on my stall. Oh well.
     
  13. Owen

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    Can someone please explain the name of the show. War & Peace?
    Hardly the right name for an event like that is it?
     
  14. von Poop

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    Funny you should ask that, it's a question our womenfolk have also enquired after.
    Well this year, we tracked down the peace. ;)

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  16. Gibbo

    Gibbo Senior Member

    In the UK, the Panorama TV series has a documentary on Weekend 'Nazis' next week. It's on BBC1 at 8:30pm on Monday.

    The BBC's website says that:
    Re-enacting battles from World War II is a popular summer pastime in the UK. But although we won the war, it's the Germans that most people want to portray and the SS who are the most popular of all. All good clean fun for most of those involved but there's a dark side too.

    John Sweeney tours the biggest event of its type in Kent and discovers David Irving, jailed for denying the holocaust, signing books, a trader selling a relic from Belsen and some Nazi enthusiasts expressing extreme racist views.

    Britain went to war to defend free speech but should it now be the home of activities which are banned by law in Germany and in future perhaps, across the EU?

    BBC - BBC ONE - Listings

    I don't know if this means the War and Peace show but the place, size & Belsen Trolley suggest that it does. I wasn't, however, aware that Iving was present, although I only attended for one day.

    I am in the 'why can't they do the Afrika Korps or the Fallschirmjager or the Panzer Lehr rather than the SS' camp & I found the sale of the Belsen trolley to be extraordinarily tasteless but I'm sure that there were more British & American than German re-enactors there, at least on the Wednesday. The SS did have a prominent position but there were many more British vehicles if you walked round the whole park. There were also Israeli re-enactors.
     
  17. Paul Reed

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    Yes, incredibly Irving was there. I found it hard to believe, but sadly it is quite evident that there are many who attend this show who all too readily appear to agree with the senitments of what he stands for. Will be interesting to see what this programme makes of W&P.
     
  18. von Poop

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    Just watched the BBC1 show and I have to say it was an utter tabloid misrepresentation of the overall feel, the filming chose only to include an extremely narrow view of what's on display and for sale, showing no interest in the vast majority that has nothing to do with the third Reich.
    David Irving was not an 'exhibitor', he was gloomily occupying one tiny grubby little trade stall (amongst hundreds) and being near universally avoided by %99.9 of visitors.

    I have attended it for years, It's the biggest Vehicle Show in the world, the militaria market is massive (It takes 7 hours to do a complete, but still not very thorough, circuit), it can be no surprise whatsoever that a miniscule amount of attendees are scum. The same can be said of any large event/organisation, it's a shame the BBC chose to take such a sensationalist approach that grossly distorted the truth of what is a magnificent event.
     
  19. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Just posted this on the "War & Peace Show 2006" and then realised my error so I'm posting it again here (oops !)

    Have just finished watching the BBC documentary on the War & Peace show at Beltring.

    One of the exhibitors was David Irving flogging his Holocaust Denial merchandise.

    Say no more :frown:

    Ron
     
  20. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    And yet no mention of the crowd of people in the bar hearing Johnson Beharry rather hesitantly talking about his recent VC, the large number of entertained veterans, or any other coverage of the multitude of overridingly positive factors that make up such an enormous show.
    A very slanted programme.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     

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