BEF Vehicles

Discussion in '1940' started by JCB, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    The first vehicle is French, to judge by what one can see of the registration number, and the badge on the door, but the make and model escape me. The second one (German) looks to me to be a Medium cross country standardised (m gl Einheits Pkw) car, made by several manufacturers but not, I think, by BMW. Exactly what the bodywork was on this particular car one, fairly obviously, cannot tell.

    Chris
     
  2. LondonNik

    LondonNik Senior Member

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  3. Bluebell

    Bluebell Junior Member

    I wondered if the bulk of the 95 Armoured AOP MkI carriers went to Belgium and France to also be lost before, or at Dunkirk. Does anyone know what became of them?
    Does anyone know if any carriers were taken off, or were returned to the U.K prior to, or even went direct to North Africa, from this theatre.
     
  4. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Cheers for that Nik - glad to hear I got something right - of course I read the 'Y'marking upside down, hence the confusion with the 10th Panzer Division.
     
  5. rewdco

    rewdco Senior Member

    The German vehicle is a Horch 901:

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    The other one is a French Army Renault:

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    Jan
     
  6. myt1prod

    myt1prod Junior Member

    Great work Jan!!

    (the second part of this post was a mis-post; see the 'dunkirk/Belgium related photos'-topic to see what stood)

    greetz
    Jean
     
  7. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    The Horch 901 is one incarnation of the m.gl.Einheits-Pkw, also made by Wanderer (also 901)and later (too late for this one) by Opel (mPI). How you tell them apart I do not know. The Renaults appears to be a Primaquatre, but note the wrecked one is a later model than the coloured one above (note different radiator grille).

    Chris
     
  8. rewdco

    rewdco Senior Member

    You're absolutely right Chris! This is a better one:

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    Jan
     
  9. JCB

    JCB Senior Member

    Stereotypical Dunkirk snap , however vehicle body on left looks unusual.

    Craig
     

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  10. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Great Jan, really nice advert thanks.
     
  11. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Looks like mobile washbasins from this angle! Is that a counter or a row of something at the rear. NAAFI wagon would open at the side? Haven't a clue, just speculating - love these pics thanks to all posters.
     
  12. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It looks like a pre-war Morris-Commercial CS8 Office Truck.
     
  13. Noel Burgess

    Noel Burgess Senior Member

    I would agree with Rich that this is a 15cwt Office - the large amount of canvas on the sides is a giveaway. I have not seen a photo with that back locker open before.
    Noel
     
  14. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Another unusual one, not least as it's marked to 10th Royal Hussars of 1st Armoured Division. It looks to be an Austin K3 YB in front

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  15. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    Fascinating picture Rich - presumably this is near Brest as that's where they embarked from - but a quick look at the regimental history says, "During the night of 15th/16th June, the Regiment harboured in a wood near Dirinon. The tank drivers, under Lieutenant Ponsonby, arrived from Le Mans at 2100 hours, and at 2200 hours, orders were issued for the whole Regiment to move at once to Brest docks. The men, with all small arms and a quota of ammunition and personal kit, were packed as tightly as possible into the minimum number of vehicles, while Major Charrington and a small rear party stayed behind to destroy the remaining lorries and equipment. This party rejoined later on the dockside."

    The regiment embarked on the Manxmaid on the 16th June. It doesn't say if they destroyed the remaining vehicles on the dockside but I presume they did, so the above might well be Dirinon - about 17-18km from Brest by modern road. I don't know about such matters, but what else can you discern in the picture?

    Best wishes for the New Year to you.
     
  16. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    That's most interesting, Brian. I think that you're probably correct. I fancy that the coast is visible behind to the right and Dirinon looks to be high overlooking the estuary. Unfortunately, 'Street-View' visited whilst the hedges were high ! The engine covers are open which suggests some sort of disabling. Those cardboard boxes with circular holes appear quite often in abandoned BEF photos. Would they have been for foodstuff ? It would seem quite possible that those boxes were unloaded from the vehicles used for troop transport to the port.

    Let's hope for more interesting photos in 2014 !
     
  17. Ben H

    Ben H Junior Member

    Interesting pic. Scout carrier and bofors plus staff car at the back.

    Where is the picture taken? The background should be easy to identify.........

    Ben
     

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  18. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    I like these - I'm not very good but as no-one else has had a go, do I detect a 'TT' on the front plate of the carrier - 50th Division and therefore anywhere in Belgium/ France but presumably May 1940 given that these are abandoned? Can't find a specific ~LAA Regiment allocated but then the carrier may not be connected with the Bofors?
     
  19. rewdco

    rewdco Senior Member

    Malo les Bains Casino...

    Regards,
    Jan
     

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  20. Ben H

    Ben H Junior Member

    Another interesting ebay picture. My Scout is RMY 683 so it's only a few away from the one in the photo. I'm always pleased to see an RMY registration.

    Any ideas on location? Perhaps a candidate for a recreation in May........... Only the last couple of digits would be different.

    Thanks

    Ben
     

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