Beach Group Equipment. What are they?

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  1. Aixman

    Aixman WE addict Patron


    It is exactly how you said: I like your posts, no matter when you publish them. And sometimes I just can't wait. :D

    Of course I knew already some items and their pics, but it is your way to show all the items in a comprehensive context. And in series.

    And I hope you have still many ideas up your sleeve.

  2. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    For 2" Mortars, a green body with a red filling ring usually denotes a smoke round.
    And i think practise rounds had black painted bodies
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  3. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Thank you Clanky,

    All contributions are more than welcome. Of course when I say 'I think' it translates as 'I don't really have any idea'

  4. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    RAOC Ordnance Notes - 014.jpg RAOC Ordnance Notes - 015.jpg Mike

    My grandad was in a RAOC beach detachment and made a load of hand written notes & diagrams of various ordnance like above.
    At some time way back i added a few of my own notes which included
    2" Mortars: H.E. - Brown Body, Smoke - Green Body, Practice - Black Body......
    I can't remember when or why i added the notes, or where i got the info from (although i suspect it came from ww2 ordnance booklet that was originally on scribd, thats no longer there).
    Hence the reason i put 'i think', as i haven't got anything to corroborate it.
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  5. Trux

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    Thanks again CrankyPencil. I love the minute detail.

    Hogg's reference book on British and US Artillery has a list of colours for British ammunition.
    Buff. High Explosive.
    Green. Smoke
    White. Flare
    Red Incendiary
    Black Others

    So picture of 2" rounds is probably
    Upper - practice round.
    Middle - Smoke round
    Lower - HE round.

  6. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Complicated or what?
    A 2" mortar round showing the protective cap on the nose and the propellant chamber at the tail.

    Stencils are difficult to read but the colours should indicate:
    Red band near nose - filled with explosive substance. High Explosive.
    Green band - filled with TNT or Amatol

    The body seems to be brown but aging makes it difficult to tell.

    A new system of markings came into use (briefly) in 1944. Perhaps this changed High Explosive rounds from Buff to Brown.

  7. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    .303" ammunition.
    Wooden ammunition box for 1,248 rounds .303 ammunition in 32 round cartons.

    32 round .303 box.jpg
    Standard cardboard carton holding 32 rounds .303 ammunition.

    Pre decimal when we still used the more convenient dozen and gross.

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  8. Trux

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    Bangalore Torpedo.

    Bangalore case.jpg

    Carrying case for Bangalore Torpedoes. The compartment along the front holds nose attachments, connectors etc. This photo shows US Bangalores.

    Bangalore fuse well.jpg

    The fuse well for the rear section of a length of torpedo. A fuse or detonator is screwed into this.

    Diagram showing the components. The basic unit is a six foot tubular section packed with explosive. Any number of tubes can be fastened together using the connecting sleeve. A nose sleeve is fitted to the front end of the torpedo to make it easier to slide it forward. The rear of the section has a threaded section into which a detonator can be fitted. Any of the standard time fuses or fuse cords and detonator can be used to fire the torpedo.

    The most common use was, and still is, clearing wire. They were also effective in gapping sand dunes.

    The Bangalore Torpedo was originally developed in Victorian times at Bangalore in India. The basic design varied little and was used in WW1, WW2 and is still in service.

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  9. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron



    Not D Day and not army but since we are interested in the equipment perhaps this can be excused. The photo shows Royal Navy beach personnel training in Egypt.

    The loudhailer is mounted on a pole and can be rotated and elevated for maximum effectiveness. Power is provided by wet cell batteries (car type batteries), and the whole is carried on a simple wooden frame. The microphone has a long lead so that the loudhailer can be operated remotely

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  11. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Simple, cheap and no batteries to run down.


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  12. ploughman

    ploughman Junior Member

    I can recall making up some improvised Bangalore Torpedoes for use on the Demolitions range on Salisbury plain back in the early 80's
    2 Six ft pickets with the angled side filled with PE4 and then wired together, place under a barbed wire entanglement and make it go bang.
    Does not do a car much good either.
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  13. Trux

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    The humble WD bike was used in considerable numbers. Each infantry battalion had 33 on strength. These were used mainly for orderlies at battalion, company and platoon level, and by the intelligence section. A fairly basic machine with no gears.

    An aside.
    I have somewhere photos of a Belgian bicycle battalion including a breakdown bicycle fully equipped with spares and with tools for the repair and maintenance of the machines.

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  14. Trux

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    Hurricane Lamp. For general lighting use, particularly in tents, dugouts, buildings without power etc. A simple paraffin lamp. Paraffin is poured into the base, the wick is lit and you have light (and some heat). It can be placed on a surface or suspended.

    Basically a railway paraffin lamp. Used for traffic control. The light can be white, green or red and these can be changed by rotating the central portion of the lamp. White can be used for illuminating road signs, red and green for stop/go or marking routes. A mask with an arrow can be placed over the glass and this can be rotated to indicate directions for traffic.

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    Lamp, electric, No 2.
    An electric version of the railway type lamp. This is powered by a cycle lamp and has red and green filters. The front of the lamp has a black out shield which allows the light to be seen from ahead but not from the sides or above. Used for traffic control and route marking.

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    Lamp, electric, No 4.
    A hand held lamp which has a tab to allow it to be attached to a uniform button. For traffic control red or green colour can be selected by the slides, red on the left and green on the right. The right hand button on the top of the lamp can be used to flash the light for signalling.

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