Auschwitz, Is this true???

Was at Belsen in the early 50's and one thing that struck me was the lack of any sound.

 

Was at Belsen in the early 50's and one thing that struck me was the lack of any sound.
Did you check the battery of your hearing aid?

 

When I visited Auschwitz and Berkenau there were birds and flowers just like anywhere else.

 

I visited Auschwitz 3 years ago also the birds grass as anywhere. But i did take photos were you were not allowed because i wanted to show them to my Father who was 88 years old then. I don't believe in anything out of the norm but i took a photo of the ovens and when we looked at the pictures the one of the ovens had strange flowing lines coming out of the oven door so i deleted the image my girl friend said what did i do that for i replied it must have been a trick of the light. But out of the oven.(strange but very true)

 

Never been to Auschwitz or Berchenau so do not know, I can only relate to what I saw

 

Well I cant speak for Auschwitz but I know tis to be the case in Dachau.

It defiantly is in Dachau, I have been there and it was the most weirdest feeling I have ever experienced in my whole life, no birds for at lest 1/2 mile and when your walking through the grounds you can feel your being watched and I don't know if it was me taking in the atmospheric conditions but I felt if some one touched me on my shoulder.

I did some painting and made an object from my experience I will put them up for you all to see soon.

regards

Keith

 

I was based in Fallingbostal and Bergen-Hohne and went to Belsen many times with family and other guests and found it to be an eerie place to be in.
The birds and animals stayed away from the place but did see bugs, and it was very quiet inside the tree line but not totally silent, more muted.
This was in the late 70`s early 80`s but i can still remember it as though it was yesterday.
Seeing the ovens at Dachau make you wonder about how evil man can be to his fellow man.
Very sad.

Malcolm

 

i was able to visit dachau this last summer , it was very somber and made me realize how precious life is. the museum there was very informative, at times we were walking through what looked like a garden path, very beautiful and you would look and see a mass grave of thousands of unknowns next to a firing wall
was a very sombering visit and i remember it being very still/quiet there

 

Belsen a few times 1970s -there were birds. However, at a reunion a few years ago there were two camps, those that remembered how quiet it was and those that remembered the birds and rabbits! One reason why I like everything to be cross referenced with proof. There was talk of a soil in-balance for some years after the use of lime. The visit- it was here a company commander said -'if you ever doubt the reason to soldier - this is why'

 

Everybody should walk through one of these camps to make them realise just how valuable life is.

 

Everybody should walk through one of these camps to make them realise just how valuable life is.


From the Daily Mirror today 12 January 2012.

Auschwitz Remembered

A record 1.4 Million tourists went to see concentration camp Auschwitz last year.
Official records for the horror camp built by the Nazis in Poland in the Second World War show visitors traveled from 111 different countries to visit it.
Britain's topped the list with 82,000 tourists, followed by Italians, Israelis, Germans and Americans. Some 150,000 more young people also visited.



Not forgotten.

 

Thanks Peter, good news

 

Visited Belsen in 1992. Not only were there no birds but there was a very strong feeling - almost physical preventing me from moving further in. That may well be explained by the knowledge I had of the history but did not explain the lack of birds over the 40 mins we were there

 

How on earth would birds know anything about the depravity of man? Are insects in on this too? Small mammals, reptiles, or just birds?

 

have to say i've seen animals at all of these places, including frogs swimming in the pond near gas chambers and crem 4 and 5 about 2 years ago

 

I visited Auschwitz last year just before xmas, I enjoyed the trip and found it very interesting

And although the site is VERY sad I didnt get the "feeling" which most people go on about, and also there are no birds there, as there are no trees!

People feel what they want to feel in my opinion

Do you think where the vikings slaughtered hundreds of peasants there are "feelings" also?

 

Disagree Gouldy. When I first encountered Belsen, I did not even know I was there. It was a very hot day and suddenly I went very cold, almost shivering. I asked why I had gone like this and one of the lads said, you are passing Belsen. So you cannot say that feeling was thought generated.

 

Can't disagree more with you Gouldy. I went there with no preconceptions I visited both Auschwitz and Birkenau and both were truly chilling. I didn't notice any animals but it was very quiet and I commented to the ex I had heard no birds.

 

I visited Westerbork in the north of The Netherlands a couple of years back (albeit this was a transit camp, but you knew what was going to happen to those held there), I had always wondered about this story that you never hear birds at Auschwitz etc and made a mental note to myself to keep an eye and ear out for wildlife.

When we left I realised I hadn't heard or seen a thing, not beacuse there was nothing there, but because my focus wasn't on the wildlife, but on what had happened to other human beings who had been there years before me. I think the sheer evil of the holocaust is so incomprehensible that you cannot pick up on every day sights and sounds.

Westerbork transit camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Charlie I understand what you say but my first ever experience of silence and cold and I did not know I was there, so that was not psychological.