Attempted Assassination Of Adolf Hitler 20th July 1944

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  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER Patron

    Today July 20th is the 61st anniversary of the attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler.


    At 12:42 p.m. CET, a powerful bomb explodes in the wooden briefing hut at the Wolfsschanze (Wolf's Lair), Hitler's secret HQ near Rastenburg in East Prussia, during Hitler's Lagebesprechung (daily noon-time conference on operations on all fronts) with his chiefs of staff and their aides of the OKW and OKH.

    The bomb was placed by Colonel Claus Count von Stauffenberg, chief of staff of the Ersatzheer (Reserve or Home Army) who had volunteered to take on the task of killing Hitler on behalf of a group of high Wehrmacht officers, among them Field Marshall von Witzleben and Generaloberst Beck, to overthrow the Nazi regime and end the war.

    In the coming months, some 5,000 persons implicated in the conspiracy will be executed.

    What, if any, was the effect on the final year of the war?

    A few of the conspirators attached as well as the Plotzenee death room.

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  2. GUMALANGI

    GUMALANGI Senior Member

    I believe that whoever the new Fuehrer of Germany was, after Hitler, Allied will resume their business as usual. Infact Western allies showed no interest on the affair. Unless germans surrender unconditionally under whoever might lead them.

    What if question in here will lead to the same result. However, the partition of Germany, spreading of influances will be on the negotiation table instead of battlefields. This (might) resulted on less of occupied teritorries by the Red Army which was avoided by Stalin who claimed wherever red army stepped, will be under his grasp. As at 1944, red army was at its prime, Stalin would certainly marched his army to Berlin anyway to secure his prize.

    Regards
     
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  3. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    One thing was certain...German resistance stiffened after that, although it was slightly less professional as guys like Kluge and Rommel had to commit suicide or perish on meat hooks.

    Hitler imposed fear in his subordinates with his usual efficiency, and made them determined to show loyalty by fighting well past Nazi Germany's expiration date.
     
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  4. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Originally posted by Kiwiwriter@Jul 20 2005, 02:04 PM
    One thing was certain...German resistance stiffened after that, although it was slightly less professional as guys like Kluge and Rommel had to commit suicide or perish on meat hooks.

    Hitler imposed fear in his subordinates with his usual efficiency, and made them determined to show loyalty by fighting well past Nazi Germany's expiration date.
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    Both Kludge and Rommel had sent messages to Hitler to tell him that the war was over.
     
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  5. SnowWolf

    SnowWolf Junior Member

    Coincedently I have written a paper on this exact same topic for my IB History Higher Level Internal Assessment. I ws able to learn that afterwards Hitler ran his own set of purges where he actually praised Stalin for conducting his own for the protection of the regime from such occurrences. Even before this Hitler was having an underground bunker built somewhere in Lower Silesia in Poland, because his Rastenburg Q being believed to being too dangerous. However, this bunker was never completed, on about 20% was, and then it has only been discovered during the 1980's. This also further proves how well the Germans hid these secret facilities and removed all witnesses to them such as the one beneath Hitler's own country villa that was bombed to the ground. An odd fact about that day is that Mussolini saw Hitler only hours after the incident with Hitler still in a poor state from the blast which caused significant hearing loss in one ear, burnt much of his clothes, and made him ever more paranoid than before. Since this was actually the third official attempt by the team that involved Stauffenberg. Also, the point on the Allies being disinterested by German resistance movements is very true. In conclusion the ramifications from this that arised were that Hitler was no longer able to trust anyone which caused all work that was required now to be done at a very slow and uncertain rate, mainly due to his increased paranoia.
     
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  6. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

     
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  8. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER Patron

    Thanks Owen!

    I had forgotten I had been around that long.
     
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  9. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    On 20 July 1944 a German army officer, Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, arrived at Hitler's "Wolf's Lair" in East Prussia. His mission on that day was to kill Adolf Hitler. Perhaps he would also save a little of Germany's honour.

    As history records, the plot to kill Hitler failed and the war in Europe continued almost another ten months. Inside Germany thousands of Germans were arrested and executed.

    On the 70th anniversary of the Stauffenberg plot his son Claus von Stauufenberg, has been interviewed by the BBC World Service. Click on the following link for further information:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28330605
     
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  10. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Just seen you have resurrected this old thread adding the BBC link while I was writing out a separate post for the WW2 News items section of the forum.
     
  11. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I remember as a young boy being fascinated by this attempt to assassinate Hitler, interesting to read about it once again.
     
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  12. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    Let us not forget that there had been almost 30 attempts at the Assassination of Hitler since he came to power.

    We planed Operation Foxley - headed by the SOE, which was never green lighted.

    As the war progressed the Allies backed away from Killing Hitler as they began to understand that his totally incompetent Military leadership was actually winning them the war.
    In a perverse sort of way it was himself by staying alive which sealled Germanys fate.
    No doubt the end would have come but it would have lasted longer and cost even more lives even if more capable Military leaders such as Rommel and perhaps Manstein would have fought a defensive war.
     
  13. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi

    Whist I was serving with the RAF in West Berlin in the late 80s and early 90s, I was extremely lucky to be able to visit the building that the show trials of the Hitler assination plot were undertaken. This building at the time was occupied by the Berlin Air Safety Center (BASC). During the hour long tour I took a few pics.

    The photos attached are mostly of the ballroom, where the show trials were held. The ceiling frescos were amazing. One photo shows where the bust of Hitler once sat. I remember seeing the rug with the hole in it where a camera recorded the proceedings.

    The staircase was reportedly the only one left in Berlin which had the original wrought iron as the rest had been melted down to make tanks. Around the staircase is riddled with bullet holes when a Russian guard reportedly saw a ghost.

    The peoples court buildings had some 600 rooms of which 599 were fully reconditioned (BASC occupied just 10!).

    One photo is of a room however down in the basement which was exactly how the Russians found it in 1945 except for a sodium light. Legend has it that some of those who were sentenced to death that could not get transported to Potsdam prison for execution, because of air raids, were stung up on a beam on the back wall with chicken wire.

    Enjoy the pics

    Gus
     

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  14. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    While the motives of many in the plot were mixed, I think a moment of respect is due to those in it who acted out of conscience and genuine love of their country. Some had been convinced Nazis and had collaborated in the regime's crimes, but in the end they made the right choice. Whether they succeeded or not was morally immaterial; as Stauffenburg said. 'it must be done, coute que coute.'
     
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  15. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    good day cooler king.yesterday.04:09pm,#12.re:attemted assasination of adolf hitler.20th july 1944.you are correct re the britich preferd him alive.he was making some great blunders and doing the allies a lot of good battle wise.i think if the generals had been in charge we would have had a whole new ball game so to speack.interesting post.regards bernard85
     
  16. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    No doubt Bernard,....... following the Wehrmacht's failue to take Moscow in the winter of 41, Field Marshal Walther von Brauchitsch had his heart attack....."offered" his resignation and then Hitler took over personal command of the Armed Forces.

    Hitler was an effective Politician, an experienced front line soldier but what he was not was a General.... and the rest is history as they say....................
     
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  17. Drusus Nero

    Drusus Nero Banned

    Its not for me to speculate what would have happened had assassination attempt suceeded, but I do know one thing.

    The German officer Corps conspired with the Nazi party to keep the SS and their supporters in power in 1934. The Deutschland Pact was also signed by industrialists, wishing to profit from full rearmament. The Army and other service chiefs wanted the Nazi's in power, and they got what they wanted.

    When it all started to go pear shaped in 1938, Beck blamed appeasement and Chamberlain for them not acting. From then on they found one excuse after another to keep things ticking along just the way they wanted. Plots came and went, because they were half-hearted affairs, without the support of the same German officers profitting from the Hitler Government. Large bribes were paid out of Nazi slush fund accounts under the table. Other 'rewards' like confiscated estates of rich Jewish people were offered (and accepted) to people like Guderian.

    The German Officer Corps had sold it's collective soul when it married the Nazi Partei. It had no intention of 'honouring' anything. As a group, they always fell back on their 'oath' to Hitler as the principle reason why they did not act to remove him a helluvalot sooner. This is whitewash, because they all had oaths to the Weimar Republic that were never 'honoured'.

    The conspiritors of 1944 were johnny- come- too- latelys. Their stated objectives were "to eliminate Hitler", and for Stauffenburg, "even at the cost of his life". Simpler, then, it would have been for someone to simply walk up to Adolf and blow his brains out with a pistol. The assassins of '44 were big on statements like "even at the cost of my own life" and small on finding someone other than themselves to carry it through. Look at Stauffenburg on July 20. If he was sincere about his own statements, he would have hung around in the conference room to make absolutely sure that nothing went awry. Had he done so, he could have moved the briefcase back to where it was placed initially. But no. Stauffenburg acted for his own preservation, despite the sentiments expressed during plotting. The would be assassins of '44 did not have the courage of their convictions.. Yes, they showed great courage when it was all over, yes, but most were given an opportunity for at least a last word or two. Many Nazi victims right throughout the war never even got that privelage.

    In 1944, the German Officer Corps reaped what it sowed from it's previous years of collaboration, deception and inaction.

    The idea that British intelligence was keeping Hitler alive to profit by his mistakes is a good idea, but still just an after the fact excuse for the reason that they really couldn't get close enough to him without co-operation from the 'inner circle'. And that is what was lacking. The Generals that could have made it happen were too busy feathering their own nests, and waiting too long to see which way the wind finally blew. Millions of people died in the last two years of the war for their inactions, on every level.

    They had no 'honour' left to salvage.
     
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  18. arnhem44

    arnhem44 Member

    I don't agree with your assessment:
    Foxley was planned for july 1944 (and cancelled same time):..where were the indications that the intact/live Hitler is helping the wareffort of Allies or Uk in particular ?
    (think of V1 attacks going on, knowledge of V2 coming soon, anxiety if DDay would indeed be successful with Eisenhower, development of Abomb for hitting Germany).

    I think they cancelled it because they realise it would not matter and in a way make surrender more difficult:
    A killed hitler would be replaced by another nazi leadership, and war wld continue. (thus in itself ineffective)
    Demanding an unconditional surrender is easier with the original F├╝hrer alive. In one go, one signature, one radio announcement: all of germany stops.
    With any other spokesman, general, staffmember, there is confusion, mistrust, and germans that won't give up the fight (and go underground).
    Thus considering all it is an ineffective deed.

    (assassination wld have been smartest before the nazi acts of aggression started).
     
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  19. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    The watershed point regarding the future role that the Wehrmacht would play in the German military structure was enacted in 1938 when the Wehrmacht pledged their loyality to Hitler and not the German state.For his part,Hitler always kept his generals sweet by awarding them grants or estates.

    Only the Wehrmacht could preside over the topping of Hitler and they were proved to be a polically neutered organisation from1938.Only if Beck could have saved Germany in 1938 by effective opposition would the territorial ambitions and aggression be halted .As it was Hitler reinforced his hold on Germany by his enabling act as soon as he entered office in 1933 and ensured that there would be no such thing as democratic elections.

    But as regards the postion of Germany and her territorial demands.While Stauffenberg and his coherts wished to depose Hitler,Stauffenberg's intentions on the Polish question was not much different to Hitler's.I cannot see that Stauffenburg's demands bearing fruit if the assassination attempt had been successful as the Allies would not have been moved from their position of unconditional surrender....there was no chance that those who had been involved deeply in this German era would have been entertained as German statesman.

    Hitler being assasssinated by the Allies was thought not to be advantageous to the Allied cause.It was thought it would be far better politically for the destruction of Nazism if this was done internally.Any help that the conspirators expected,certainly from the Brtiish would amount to no interest,following the Venlo incident when British intelligence was hoodwinked by the Abwehr/SD deception plan on supposed Wehrmacht oppositon of General rank to Hitler.The anti Hitler Wehrmacht faction were entirely on their own and proved to be ineffective against the greater forces of evil.
     
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  20. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER Patron

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