I am helping a work friend get details for a family tree and ask if anybody can give anymore info re the following. Arthur Jacobs army number 4930 1896-1915 1st bat Border regiment KIA Gallipoli
From CWGC - if this is your man: JACOBS, ARTHUR Rank: Private Service No: 4930 Date of Death: 01/10/1915 Age: 19 Regiment/Service: Border Regiment 1st Bn. Panel Reference Panel 119 to 125 or 222 and 223. Memorial HELLES MEMORIAL Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. J. Jacobs, of 5, St. James' St., Salford, Manchester. Helles Memorial details: http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/76100/HELLES%20MEMORIAL Medal card: Plus: UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Arthur Jacobs Name: Arthur Jacobs Birth Place: Manchester Residence: Salford, Lancs Death Date: 1 Oct 1915 Death Location: Gallipoli Enlistment Location: Manchester Rank: Private Regiment: Border Regiment Battalion: 1st Battalion Number: 4930 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Balkan Theatre Looking at other family trees it would appear his father was James Jacobs and the tree originator is uncertain about his mother as they have Sarah Ellen/Eleanor Mathews?? - would this be the tree of your friend?? TD
Private Arthur Jacobs, Border Regiment (1914 - 1915) This fellow enlisted at Manchester and I reckon his service record will show that he initially went into the 3rd Battalion, the reserve for the two regular battalions (1st and 2nd Border). He was drafted to the 2nd Battalion (C Company) and went over to France on 25 November 1914. Some of my own relatives took the same crossing and were drafted into 2nd Border at this time. I reckon Private Jacobs would have been one of those present in the trenches during the famous 1914 'Christmas Truce'. Then in March 1915 he was "Sick at Duty" (S.A.D) and brought back Britain. I believe you will find he was posted back to the 3rd Battalion for this period. Instead of being posted back to the 2nd Battalion when his health recovered sufficiently, this time he was evidently drafted to the 1st Battalion. By this time 1st Border had already been sent to the Dardanelles. As you already know, he was listed 'Killed in Action' on 1 October. The Regimental Museum would be able to fill in more of the details (for the appropriate research fee). I looked him up in Ralph May's "Glory is no Compensation" (published 2003 by Silver Link Publishing Ltd.).
Unfortunately i have only the 1st bn Border diarys from April 1916 - 1919 when they were in France sorry.
I have looked for his WW1 service record but could not find it - I would have otherwise posted it with the other info, so I guess it is one of the 'burnt' records. TD
Keep an eye out. It has been digitised for download but they haven't put it on the website yet. £3.30 I believe when it goes on. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C7357769
Thanks everybody for your help my work colleague is amazed at the response and info you have been able to supply and will be contacting regimental Museum and other place in due course.
Checking through the 'Cumberland News' index of WW1 related references (1914 - 1919) I noticed the edition of 23 October 1915 mentions Pte. A. Jacobs, 4930, 1st Border Regiment had been reported missing (page 5). That might be all it really says about him so it may not be worth following up to look at the actual newspaper at the library or archives. If there is a longer article about a soldier the index seems to indicate it.
