Arnhem 2009

Discussion in 'All Anniversaries' started by Bart150, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    And the paradropping at the Airborne Monument Hartenstein Oosterbeek

    Operation Market Garden 65th Anniversary

    Thats it.

    I will upload hundreds of pics over the coming weeks from as much
    places as possible(and if someone has pix for me from places I don't have
    I would be very thankfull and ofcourse give you the credits on my site)

    Cheers

    Ron
     
  2. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    Thanks for all your efforts Ron, I'm sure it's much appreciated by all of us that couldn't be there to see it. :)

    Paul............
     
  3. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Thanks Paul , it's not all the best quality, I wished I had a better camera.

    In any case.

    I am off now, I am going to Arnhem to the Uni-Bar for a big farewell
    party:D
    Pics and movie of the service at the airborne cemetery tomorrow.


    Ron
     
  4. levien

    levien Just a member

    And the paradropping at the Airborne Monument Hartenstein Oosterbeek



    Cheers

    Ron


    You must have touched my right shoulder when you filmed the landing of the Red Devils.

    Levien.
     
  5. levien

    levien Just a member

    Is this the "Flying Donkey"?



    Levien.
     

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  6. levien

    levien Just a member

    Youngest para.


    Levien.
     

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  7. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    You must have touched my right shoulder when you filmed the landing of the Red Devils.

    Levien.

    Well, it was the whole market-garden.info team in action. That's to say,
    my 13 years old son and my wife:)
    They were there with Ray and Ruth Strong(A veteran and his wife)
    Nice Pics Btw!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Bart150

    Bart150 Member

    I just got home. I noticed this in the British press that may interest some of you Nederlanders:
    Bridging the gap: new generation hails Arnhem heroes - Times Online

    But, I have these points. Please correct me if I am wrong:
    1 The article gives the impression that the majority of British 'veterans' present fought in the War, but some others there served post-war. That is misleading. My impression is that there were far more post-war veterans present than WW2 veterans.
    2 The Duke of Edinburgh and Queen Beatrix were not at Oosterbeek, as the article implies. They were certainly at Nijmegen; I saw them.
    3 Yes, there were hundreds of British and Dutch re-enactors, but that is misleading: the overwhelming majority I saw were Dutch. About 90% at a guess.
    4 I assume it is true that some German paratroopers dropped on the Ginkelse Heide, but I don't think it was announced. I remember the announcer saying that the paratroopers were all British or Dutch, and the British officer contradicted him in his speech a bit later by saying they were British and Dutch and also from other NATO countries.

    The above is my experience. Anybody experience it differently?
     
  9. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    I just got home. I noticed this in the British press that may interest some of you Nederlanders:
    Bridging the gap: new generation hails Arnhem heroes - Times Online

    But, I have these points. Please correct me if I am wrong:
    1 The article gives the impression that the majority of British 'veterans' present fought in the War, but some others there served post-war. That is misleading. My impression is that there were far more post-war veterans present than WW2 veterans.
    2 The Duke of Edinburgh and Queen Beatrix were not at Oosterbeek, as the article implies. They were certainly at Nijmegen; I saw them.
    3 Yes, there were hundreds of British and Dutch re-enactors, but that is misleading: the overwhelming majority I saw were Dutch. About 90% at a guess.
    4 I assume it is true that some German paratroopers dropped on the Ginkelse Heide, but I don't think it was announced. I remember the announcer saying that the paratroopers were all British or Dutch, and the British officer contradicted him in his speech a bit later by saying they were British and Dutch and also from other NATO countries.

    The above is my experience. Anybody experience it differently?

    Okay, I have seen veterans from the Falklands many years ago in Oosterbeek, nothing wrong with that. The only thing that counts is the long lasting fiendship and I think that will stay foreever.
    My friends are sons of a veteran, they came here since 1960 and they will come every year as long as they can.
    Can't comment on your other questions.

    Ron
     
  10. levien

    levien Just a member

    I just got home. I noticed this in the British press that may interest some of you Nederlanders:
    Bridging the gap: new generation hails Arnhem heroes - Times Online

    But, I have these points. Please correct me if I am wrong:
    1 The article gives the impression that the majority of British 'veterans' present fought in the War, but some others there served post-war. That is misleading. My impression is that there were far more post-war veterans present than WW2 veterans.
    2 The Duke of Edinburgh and Queen Beatrix were not at Oosterbeek, as the article implies. They were certainly at Nijmegen; I saw them.
    3 Yes, there were hundreds of British and Dutch re-enactors, but that is misleading: the overwhelming majority I saw were Dutch. About 90% at a guess.
    4 I assume it is true that some German paratroopers dropped on the Ginkelse Heide, but I don't think it was announced. I remember the announcer saying that the paratroopers were all British or Dutch, and the British officer contradicted him in his speech a bit later by saying they were British and Dutch and also from other NATO countries.

    The above is my experience. Anybody experience it differently?

    1. True, but also 6th AB veterans.
    2. True.
    3. Don't know about the 90%, but I heard a lot of them talk Dutch.
    4. Think you're right, can't remeber, but I happen to speak to the announcer the day before the dropping and he then told that there would be Belgian and German paratroopers dropped. I also saw Germans soldiers in he crowd on saturday.

    Levien.
     
  11. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    And the paradropping at the Airborne Monument Hartenstein Oosterbeek

    Operation Market Garden 65th Anniversary

    Thats it.

    I will upload hundreds of pics over the coming weeks from as much
    places as possible(and if someone has pix for me from places I don't have
    I would be very thankfull and ofcourse give you the credits on my site)

    Cheers

    Ron

    Ron, I took 3 Airborne Vets (One Arnhem) to the Vittesse game on Sat night, so will let you have some photos from there when I get home.

    Ps. Ray Strong, is also on the Merseyside Vet's bookmark that you have posted on your home page.

    P
     
  12. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Hey, that's great Phil, looking forward to your pictures. I have more
    pics from Ray and Ruth on my site at several events.
     
  13. Bart150

    Bart150 Member

    Last Friday afternoon at Groesbeek I took some photos of veterans from the Market Garden Old Comrades Group from South Yorkshire. A few of the photos turned out quite well, and I'd like to send them to the Group. But I can't find any suitable email address to contact. Any ideas?
     
  14. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi All,

    Should have found this the first time here you go

    Arnhem 2009
    Hello All,

    What a lovely time I had over in Holland this year Poeple like always your made to feel welcome by all no matter when you go.. Had the pleasure of making some new friends and of course seeing old ones as well.. Took lots of photos in fact heres one for you Arthur Latchford and Len Hoare who kindly signed a map for me showing him on the LZ in 1944....Also visited the new museum and went to the Arnhem Veterans AGM and had the pleasure of Meeting Adam Urquhart and many more...

    Cheers
    Tom
     

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  15. levien

    levien Just a member

    Does anyone have pictures of the little ceremony at the Utrechtseweg at the 10th Bn marker last sunday afternoon?
    I was too late, kept hanging around the cemetery too long;).

    Levien.
     
  16. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi levien,

    Was at the cemetery as well saw Hal Sosabowski and had a chat with him to.. In fact I also saw Lippy Kessel family his wife and daughter as well which was a surprised too...

    Tom
     
  17. levien

    levien Just a member

    Hi levien,

    Was at the cemetery as well saw Hal Sosabowski and had a chat with him to.. In fact I also saw Lippy Kessel family his wife and daughter as well which was a surprised too...

    Tom


    Missed you again, then. :D

    Levien.
     
  18. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi levien,

    True but there was a lot of poeple there thats for sure...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  19. levien

    levien Just a member

    Hi levien,

    True but there was a lot of poeple there thats for sure...

    Cheers
    Tom

    And still it is possible to find some old friends and talk to them.

    Levien.
     
  20. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi levien,

    True but I knew who to look for :)

    Tom
     

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