Army Organization Abbreviations

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  1. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    Can anyone tell me what the following Army Organization abbreviations that this unit is from Form WD 53 for ETO (Germany) in 1947-1948 post war? My uncle was a Military Police (677) assigned to this unit.

    Box 6: Organization
    HQ & HQ SV TRP C SS
     

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  2. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    My initial thought was Headquarters and Headquarters and Service Troops, but I can't really marry that up with the 'C SS'. There were MP units as part of HQs from Div to Army, as well as separate organisations.

    Gary
     
  3. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Might be European Theatre of Operations.

    Tim
     
  4. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    It was ETO but I can't find anything on "C SS". He received the Army of Occupation w/Germany clasp for this service period.
     
  5. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    The Dictionary of United States Army Terms is online at archive.org, but still leaves us short of TRP.

    TM 20-205 Dictionary Of United States Army Terms 1944 : United States. War Dept : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

    The below can be found in there;

    HQ - Headquarters
    SV - Service
    SS - Selective Service

    TRP isn't one I can find in there. My first though was Troops, though the dictionary says that's Troop is Tr and Troops is Trs. I've had a look at contemporary organization abbreviations though and Service Troop is shown as Sv Trp. It may have been amended in the post-war era.

    Gary
     
  6. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    The Dictionary shows on page 249 (Serv C = Sevice Command). It shows "C" = Combat
    It may be "Headquarters & Headquarters Service Troop Command Selective Service" or "Headquarters & Headquarters Service Troop Combat Selective Service" but I have no idea what type pf organization that would be.
     
  7. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    "SS" may mean "Special Services"
    It may be "Headquarters & Headquarters Service Troop Command Special Services" or "Headquarters & Headquarters Service Troop Combat Special Services"
     
  8. Wessex_Warrior

    Wessex_Warrior Junior Member

    Hello,

    I believe that the first SS is Service and Support and the second one part of the Rifle qualification and means SharpShooter. If EX it would have meant Expert.

    Kind regards,

    Will.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2020
  9. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    So you believe that it means

    "Headquarters & Headquarters Service Troop Command SharpShooter" ?
     
  10. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    I noticed the reply you received on WW2F, which has a US focus so is perhaps a better place to ask. I'd go with the response you received from RichTO90, he's very well acquainted with US forces history. For those who don't browse across both forums his reply was -

    "Headquarters and Headquarters Service Troop, Constabulary Signal Squadron. He was likely stationed at Bad Tölz, the Constabulary Headquarters location."

    I cannot claim any familiarity with post-war US unit or higher organisation, however the dates are in line with the existence of the Constabulary.

    Re the two appearances of SS on the form, under Organization and Military Qualification, I don't think they have to refer to the same thing. I actually thought it would be quite easy to magic up a list of the military qualifications available to US personnel, and confirm that the abbreviation does refer to sharpshooter. To my surprise I've not been able to find such a list.

    You may have already seen it but there's an introduction to the US Discharge Document here;

    https://www.80thdivision.com/pdfs/ReadingUnderstandingWWIIDischargeDocument.pdf

    That does have marksman as MM and sharpshooter as SS. What makes me hesitate is that the abbreviation for marksman in the US Army Dictionary (linked above) is 'mkm' and sharpshooter is 's'. Given that the publication is from 1944 and your document is from 1948 the dictionary definitions could well have been superseded.

    Gary
     
  11. dga99

    dga99 Junior Member

    That sounds right to me. I did not see RichTO90 post. Which forum did he post it on?
     
  12. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

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