Army Number Block Allocations

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Geoff Reeves, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Hi all, I have been asked to try and identify Arthur Lock (could be Locke) and get some idea of his service record.
    From the service number 23046198 it would appear he might be Royal Corps of Signals, possibly a late number in the range. Does this look right and any ideas where I could find any more information before I get back to the family?
    Arthur died recently and his cremation will be Tuesday 8th May.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Hi all, I have been asked to try and identify Arthur Lock (could be Locke) and get some idea of his service record.
    From the service number 23046198 it would appear he might be Royal Corps of Signals, possibly a late number in the range. Does this look right and any ideas where I could find any more information before I get back to the family?
    Arthur died recently and his cremation will be Tuesday 8th May.

    That's an 8 digit number so post-1950 see Dave's post #13.
    The pre-1950 Sigs numbers were only 7 digit.
    Royal Corps of Signals 2303001 - 2604000

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/140942-post13.html

    22562760 to 23052500 Until June 1955
     
  3. zeezee

    zeezee Member

    Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but what would "Block 1" mean?

    My grandfather's service # is 127349. He was an RAMC Captain when he died in Burma. The search tool comes back with:

    "Royal Army Service Corps (Block 1)"

    Thanks in advance!
     
  4. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    hi geoff,I dont see a block relegated to the London Irish Rifles?any reason why not?many thanks Arnie
     
  5. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    Bugleboy:

    TA infantry regiments (LIR, London Scottish, Monmouthshires, etc) were not allocated their own block numbers. Instead, they were given numbers assigned to the regular regiments with which they were affiliated. The LIR was affiliated with the Royal Ulster Rifles, so they drew numbers from that block.
     
  6. bugleboy2323

    bugleboy2323 Senior Member

    Bugleboy:

    TA infantry regiments (LIR, London Scottish, Monmouthshires, etc) were not allocated their own block numbers. Instead, they were given numbers assigned to the regular regiments with which they were affiliated. The LIR was affiliated with the Royal Ulster Rifles, so they drew numbers from that block.
    many ta ta's tth thankks:)
     
  7. blue job

    blue job Junior Member

    Geoff.
    Can you help please and explain the meaning of the General Service Corp and its range of
    Army Number block allocation.
    My interest is in the Army commando's, from 1943 within the GSC range of numbers can be found men of many different regiments ie 14241712 R Northumberland Regt
    14241713 RAC
    14241638 Norfolk Regt
    14241679 Cameronian Regt
    these are real numbers and regiments.
    Any help gratefully accepted,you may have to write slow so I can understand!
    Many thanks
    Graham
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Geoff isnt here anymore.
    The GSC was where recruits were sent for basic training & to see where they'd best fit into the army.
    A couple of our veterans can tell you first hand.
    Ron & Tom were originally in GSC.

    see this post of Tom's.
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/328093-post4.html
     
  9. Steve Kemble

    Steve Kemble Junior Member

    I joined the Royal Signals in April 75 and my number begins 2437****.
    It does not compute :)
     
  10. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen

    Excuse the slight detour, but couldn't help noticing the neat trick on giving a link to a single comment as opposed to a whole thread.

    How did you do it ?

    Ron
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Owen

    Excuse the slight detour, but couldn't help noticing the neat trick on giving a link to a single comment as opposed to a whole thread.

    How did you do it ?

    Ron
    ron at top right of post is the post number
    eg #97
    click that to get the single post up.
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/548356-post97.html
     
  12. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen

    Still very neat .................... and thanks for that !

    Ron
     
  13. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Still very neat ................... and thanks for that !
    Ron

    While you're on the thread, Ron...
    Has anyone any idea of the enlistment date for army number 148***** ?
    I note Ron was "called up" almost 2 months after his 19th birthday (143*****), the man in question was 4 months younger, can I assume the likely date would be the first few months of 1943, a few months after reaching 19 ?

    cheers,

    geoff
     
  14. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Geoff

    I'd go along with your guess for early 1943.

    If you have the time, the whole thread is worth looking at, page by page.

    I noticed on Page 5 my own search for numbers similar to my own and the spooky discovery of someone who didn't make it :(

    Geoff

    I feel must tell you and others, of my experience this morning on testing out your admirable CWGC Search Engine.

    My Army number was 14300260.

    I decided to enter only the first six digits, i.e. 143002 in the "number" field and see if any one who joined the Army near my time had been killed in WW2.

    The search produced, amongst others a Trooper Fletcher, Reginald Water who died on the 12th of March 1945, is buried in The Reichswald Forest Cemetery and who's Army Number was 14300257.

    Trooper Fletcher's number is just 3 digits lower than mine and he must have joined on the same day, 1st October 1942.

    Truly a case of "There but for the Grace of G-d go I"


    Ron
     
  15. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Thanks, Ron.
    The old search engine is still running but somewhat superseded by the official version, but plenty of folks still using it - I do find the Unit Text search very useful - I'm not a big fan of spreadsheets.

    geoff
     
  16. blue job

    blue job Junior Member

    HI
    The range 14200001 to 15000000 were allocated to the General Service Corp.

    My question is ,is it possible to find out what depot issued what numbers.

    The reason for this question is that I 'm research the Army Commandos.

    During 1942/43 over 400 police men joined the Cdo in 3 intakes, todate I have

    found over 40 names and some regt numbers.The police joined as civilians and

    chose a regiment who carried out the admin,some of these numbers are

    consecutive implying that they joined up together.

    Any thoughts

    Thanks
    Graham
     
  17. Barney

    Barney Junior Member

    I bought a Tin Hat at the Barras in Glasgow several years ago for £20.
    I think it may be WW2 but can't be certain. The interesting thing is that on the inside rim, scraped into it, are some details of who belonged to it.
    I would like, just out of curiosity, to try and trace whose it was.

    On the inside, probably scraped with a knife into the tin, is the following: McCullochs 1702661 Cardross. Derby. Barrowhead (or is it Burrowhead)

    Difficult to make out, but there might be a J before McCullochs.

    ...I think "McCullochs" really stands for "McCulloch's helmet" and he was maybe simply just trying to prevent it being pinched. So his name was probably McCulloch, and I would guess that he was Scottish.

    Can anyone say if I am right in saying that going by the batch number above, he would have been in the Royal Artillery? Would it be WW2 rather than WW1?

    Brian
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  19. Bond

    Bond Senior Member

    I get the same response for a Major (C.J.L. Lewis) in the Royal Welch Fusiliers (2ic 2nd & 2ic 4th battalion) who also served in Burma, service # 33723.

    Does anyone know if the numbers were the same for officers, as I noticed in an earlier post that mention was made of it being different for them?

    Thanks.
     
  20. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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