Army Number Block Allocations

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Geoff Reeves, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi

    All the numbers seem to have 7 digits, but that has 8??

    regards

    Robert
     
  2. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    I can find original units for serial numbers up to 14005000 and then nothing until 14200000.

    For example, this Royal Artillery casualty has a serial number of 14196270 and I can't get an original unit match for his serial number either.

    Name:CHRISTOFFERSEN, POUL
    Initials:P
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Gunner
    Regiment/Service:Royal Artillery
    Unit Text:87 (Airborne) Field Regt.
    Age:19
    Date of Death:10/11/1947
    Service No:14196270
    Additional information:Son of Christoffer and Marie Christoffersen, of Svendborg, Denmark.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:F. A. 4.
    Cemetery:KHAYAT BEACH WAR CEMETERY
     
  3. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    I can find original units for serial numbers up to 14005000 and then nothing until 14200000.

    For example, this Royal Artillery casualty has a serial number of 14196270 and I can't get an original unit match for his serial number either.

    Name:CHRISTOFFERSEN, POUL
    Initials:P
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Gunner
    Regiment/Service:Royal Artillery
    Unit Text:87 (Airborne) Field Regt.
    Age:19
    Date of Death:10/11/1947
    Service No:14196270
    Additional information:Son of Christoffer and Marie Christoffersen, of Svendborg, Denmark.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:F. A. 4.
    Cemetery:KHAYAT BEACH WAR CEMETERY


    Hi Rob,
    Strange he is classed as `Nationality:United Kingdom` as he was Danish.Killed in an Ambush on a train during the troubles in Palestine post WW2.Have a look here;-
    Roll of Honour 1945-48

    Theres more listed with similar numbers.


    Jim
     
  4. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    Hi Rob,
    Strange he is classed as `Nationality:United Kingdom` as he was Danish.Killed in an Ambush on a train during the troubles in Palestine post WW2.Have a look here;-
    Roll of Honour 1945-48

    Theres more listed with similar numbers.


    Jim

    Hi Jim,

    I've checked a few of those Danish names at random on CWGC and they have UK Nationality as well. I've found quite a few Czech Airmen listed as having UK Nationality as well. I wonder were they transcription errors on CWGC or were they granted UK citizenship for serving and then paying the ultimate price.

    Intriguing.

    Rob
     
  5. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    I don't think the 3rd and 4th digits are numbers, it looks like 14CE375... and then I cannot make out the rest.

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  6. Christine2ndinf

    Christine2ndinf Junior Member

    Hi

    I posted a couple of days ago to try and find out about a solider I had the dog tags for. I also have another set for a second soldier. Neither of their numbers are listed under the Army number block allocations list. Can anyone help? I have managed to get better photos of them now. The details are also below. They both have 8 digit numbers which are really clear to read.

    14053752
    C E
    MASON
    W

    MCINTIRE
    K
    R C
    21070714

    I don't know why one gives the number first, but the second set gives the name first. I would have thought there would have been a set order.

    Many thanks
    Christine
     

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  7. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi all

    I found this, read the explanation of number issued after 1942-
    Army Service Numbers 1920 - 1942
    So do they mean they were just sequential and no allocation for regiment?

    regards
    Robert
     
  8. Christine2ndinf

    Christine2ndinf Junior Member

    Many thanks for the explanation. It looks like after 1942 all new recruits were given General Service Corps numbers. Both of the soliders I am looking for appear to come under this category. They must have stopped issuing numbers to particular regiments. A bit of a shame, but this seems to be the explanation.

    Many thanks for your help.

    Christine
     
  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Many thanks for the explanation. It looks like after 1942 all new recruits were given General Service Corps numbers. Both of the soliders I am looking for appear to come under this category. They must have stopped issuing numbers to particular regiments. A bit of a shame, but this seems to be the explanation.

    Fraid this is not so: to give you an example, my father volunteered in 43 and got a no. from within his regiment's block allocation as did the majority of men he served with. His regiment was still issuing from within their allocation post-hostilities.

    Regards
    Diane
     
  10. Toni

    Toni Member

    I am trying to find out inf about my Grandfather and I have 2 service numbers for him

    2515062
    3315043

    I have recently been told he has something to do with Black Watch during WWII
    He joined to Army in 1939
    I would love to find out more about his service :)
     
  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  12. Toni

    Toni Member

    Thanks you so much for that CL1
    I have just read through the Royal Corps of Signals page http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/royal-signals/19612-royal-corps-signals-40.html

    I was fantastic to find out a little bit about what Poppa done.
    Next I will do some reading about the HLI.

    My Mum is going to be thrilled to hear what her Father did during the war as he never spoke of it but she has always wondered.
     
  13. tmac

    tmac Senior Member

    I wonder if anyone can help with this? I've come across a soldier who was given an emergency commission as a second lieutenant in the Royal Artillery in 1942 at the age of 37. His Army number was 224829. I can't find this number allocation in Geoff's posting and I'd like to find out if it signifies any particular unit, or arm of the service.
     
  14. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    searched the number 224829 on London Gazette and it came up with 22nd Jan 1942 (cadets to be 2nd Lt's) 224829 Charles Johnson Cowper Pratt, Royal Regiment of Artillery.
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I wonder if anyone can help with this? I've come across a soldier who was given an emergency commission as a second lieutenant in the Royal Artillery in 1942 at the age of 37. His Army number was 224829. I can't find this number allocation in Geoff's posting and I'd like to find out if it signifies any particular unit, or arm of the service.


    Is he Charles Johnson Cowper PRATT (224829) ?

    Viewing Page 647 of Issue 35448

    As you'll see from that LG page, Officers numbers were different to Other Ranks & had no relevence of who they served with. The numbers just follow on from eachother.
     
  16. tmac

    tmac Senior Member

    That's the chap, Owen. His family are trying to find details of his service and haven't yet obtained his records from the MoD. He was with 92nd LAA Rgt RA for most of the war.
     
  17. worthatron

    worthatron Member

    i need help with 105520. it cant be a ww1 number because the man is too young for that.
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    also see post #1.
    Royal Army Service Corps 1 - 294000 and 10660001 - 11000000

    105520 fits in the 1 - 294000 bit.
     
  20. worthatron

    worthatron Member

    aah right. so this man got transferred from the RASC to the fusiliers then.

    thanks for the help.
     

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