Army names i'm researching

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by gen, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Hi All, These are the names i'm researching who were in the Army along with their units, Service No, date of death. If anyone has any info on what the units were doing on these dates it would be appreciated, especially from war diaries, personnel accounts etc.

    Wells, Ernest Frederick (Pete), 5338399, 1st Bn Royal Berks Regt, between 30/05/1940 and 31/05/1940.
    Ryding, Phillip Patrick, 7585591, Royal Ordnance Corps, 21/05/1940.
    Roper, Samuel Francis, 5379459, 1st Bn Ox and Bucks LI, 22/05/1940
    Wigley, Maurice John, 2614075, 1st Bn Grenadier Guards, Between 31/05/1940 and 01/06/1940.
    Hooker, Albert Richard, 5379527, 1st Bn Ox and Bucks LI, 19/01/1942
    Arnold, Ronald Gilbert, 5390298, 6th Bn Ox and Bucks LI, 03/03/1945
    Gale, William Henry, 7589298, Royal Berks Regt attd The Queens Royal Regt (West Surrey), 16/09/1945.
    Weston, Jack, 5346371, 1st Bn Royal Berks Regt, 02/04/1943
    Crabtree, Patrick Leslie, 5350818, 5th Bn Royal Berks Regt, 14/10/1942.
    Rouse, Patrick John, T/195427, RAOC, 14/01/1942
    Town, Cyril Edward, 1876512, 79th Assault Sqn, RE. 08/11/1944.
    Allen, Henry Arthur, 7580592, REME, 10/02/1945.
    Scase, Frederick John, 7358143, 60th Field Hygiene Sec RAMC, 15/08/1944
    Marriott, Henry Eden, 5380547, 1st Bn Ox and Bucks LI, 19/06/1947
    Brogden, Charles, 5504079, 5th Cinque Ports Bn Royal Sussex Regt, 27/10/1942
    Slade, Reginald Joseph, 5249752, 2nd Bn Worcestershire Regt, 05/01/1945
    Reeve, George William, 5429379, 9th Bn Formally DCLI, 24/09/1941
    Baker, William George, 7584097, RAOC, 24/05/1943
    Bowler, Ernest Gordon, 7585391, RAOC, 29/08/1941
    George, Oswald Edgar, 168140, RAOC, 05/07/1941
    Shelley, Eric Arthur Harry, 7586992, RAOC, 12/07/1945
    Taylor, Joseph James, 7007152, RAOC, 26/09/1946
    Leigh, Eric W, 822557, 13th Anti Tank Regt RA, 27/05/1947
    Noble, Walter Edward John, 7887545, 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry RAC, 04/08/1944
    Goodall, Horace Victor, 7901167, 10th Royal Hussars RAC, 04/09/1944
    Moore, Alan George, 7901993, 32nd Army Tank Bde RAC, 14/11/1942
    Creed, John, 7889653, 16th/5th Lancers RAC, 25/04/1943
    Everitt, John, 2090772, 9th (Airborne) Field Coy RE, 29/11/1944.

    I know some of these are buried locally here in Didcot and the best place to get their details is probably the local library, but if anyone has any further suggestions please let me know.

    Thankyou in advance for any help that anyone can give me, any info may help me on getting this research a step closer to going to print for the local schools and libraries.

    Regards
    Mike
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Oh ****, only a small list then.
    Was going to have an early night, but temptation to dive in is hard to resist.
     
  3. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    This is definately one for the muddy feet brigade. However, I can say that Allen, Henry Arthur, 7580592, REME, 10/02/1945 was Mentioned in Despatches (Gazette Issue 35020 20 December 1940)
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Noble, Walter Edward John, 7887545, 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry RAC, 04/08/1944


    In 11th Armd Div.
    I have Div History , I look up it up soon.

    in Roll of Honour at back of Div History as
    Sjt WEJ Noble Date 4 Aug Place Vire.

    From The Black Bull by P Delaforce.
    3rd aug, 2nd Northants Yeomanry were patrolling vigorously...by early afternoon Tiger tanks supported by infantry caught and savagley mauled the regiment around La Bistiere. Here three tanks were destroyed by Unterscharfuhrer Ernst Steng and his three Tigers.

    During the night of 3-4 August Panzergrenadiers inflitrated the 2nd Northants Yeomanry laager and destroyed eight more tanks with their panzerfaust. After adding these losses to the one sided battle earlier on , the Yeomanry casualties were fourteen crew killed, sixteen wounded and thirty-eight missing. Demoralized after their heavy losses and the poor performance of their Cromwells , crews had dismounted and were patrolling on foot towrads Vire road. 'They could at least stalk the brutes' but these foot patrols were also shot up and suffered casualties.
     
  5. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Owen, i'm always going to have an early night but seem to stay on here until the early hours.
    Kyt, How did you find that out so quickly? Is there a site where i can read what the mention in despatches says?
    Thanks again
    Mike
     
  6. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    gen, it's always worth checking out a service number in the London Gazette. I use it for the RAF, but have to admit that it might not be so useful for the army. Air force crews tended to have greater chances for decorations and/or promotions than soldiers. Anyway, always worth having the LG in your bookmarks:

    Gazette

    p.s. I got lucky with Allen - it was the first name I picked at random from your list!!
     
  7. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Thanks Kyt, I did use to use it for WW1 but forgot it had WW2 on there as well, now i can check the rest of my lads.

    Mike
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Mike,
    Check my edited post #4 on Sgt Noble.
     
  9. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Just read it Owen, Thats awesome. I think he may have been on one of those foot patrols, but unless i can find proof i'll never know. I've copied this info to his file so it will give me something to go.
    Thanks again
    Mike
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Perhaps they may some info here?
    Museum Collections - Military Collection - Northampton Borough Council

    Northampton Borough Council is the sole Trustee of the collections of the Northamptonshire Regimental Museum and the Northamptonshire Yeomanry Regimental Museum Trust. These collections total about 5,000 items which represent the history of the Regiments and associated units.

    The military displays are all based at Abington Park Museum. Access to any part of the collection that is currently in storage may be obtained by telephoning 01604 837280.



    Could have been wounded and then died on the 4th, as you say may never know, unless .........

    Off to bed now, nite.
     
  11. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Owen,

    It says on the top of your history part that he died at Vire and they were patrolling the Vire Road on foot so putting 2 and 2 together and possibly coming up with 5 maybe but i would say he was shot up while on one of the foot patrols.

    Sleep tight and thanks
    Mike
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Missed this last night, from Taurus Pursuant the Div history, page 33.

    By the time 2 N Yeo , who were once more operating on the right flank, reached ETOUVY, resistance had developed there also, and this flank was to prove most uncomfortable for the regiment.
    After nightfall German infantry penetrated their positions and knocked out several tanks with bazookas; as all our infantry proper was otherwise committed , a squadron of sappers was despatched to assist them in an infantry role. Vire itself now became an American responsibility.



    Mike go to IWM photo archive and search for 2nd Northamptonshire Yeomanry there are some excellent photos of their Cromwells.

    IWM Collections Online: Search Photographs Archive




    Here's a Google map to show Vire, Etouvy and La Bistiere
     

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  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Reeve, George William, 5429379, 9th Bn Formally DCLI, 24/09/1941

    All I can find is that on CWGC it says he was 9th Bn East Surreys, they only existed from 1940-43.
    As he buried in Didcot must have died on Home Service.

    The East Surrey Regiment [UK]

    9th Battalion [1940-1943]

    Maybe more info can be obtained from here.
    Queen's Royal Surrey Regiment
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Town, Cyril Edward, 1876512, 79th Assault Sqn, RE. 08/11/1944.

    Found this lovely photo of them with a Terrapin here.
    MLU FORUM - Photos needed

    He'd be with 79th Armd Div and killed whilst operating in the battle of the Schedlt.
    Pity I just finished a book on that and gave it back to the library.

    I think the Schedlt was cleared by 7th Nov so he died the day after the job was finished.
     
  15. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Hi Owen,

    Many thanks for all this information, it certainly gives me so much more to check up on.
    I recieved the 1st and 5th Bn's Berkshire Regiment unit histories and war diaries today. The 5th Bn's is really well documented in that it names all ranks who were casualties even wounded. They are both going to make great reading material. Do you happen to know if any other Regiment's have published their war diaries? I will also be buying the other war diaries of the Berkshire Regiment over the coming weeks.

    Take care
    Mike
     
  16. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I can help with one name ; Trp.Moore Alan George 7901993 R.A.C. Remembered Column 14 of the El Alamein Memorial. Died as a P.O.W. on the S.S.Scillin 14/11/42. He would have been in the Larger Camp at Benghazi(PG154)until towards the end of October. Taken to one of the Camps near Tripoli to await transport to Italy. Boarded the Scillin Friday 13th November.
     
  17. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    Scase, Frederick John, 7358143, 60th Field Hygiene Sec RAMC, 15/08/1944

    The 60th Field Hygiene were part of the Guards Armoured Divsion - during the time that Scase died the Division was part of VIII Corps (they transferred to the XXX Corps on 28/08/44).

    So if anybody knows what the Guards or VIII Corps were doing on that date, you may get an indication of the causes of death.

    And this article gives an indication of the type of work they undertook:

    BBC - WW2 People's War - Medical Corps Field Hygiene work in Normandy 1944
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    According to Grenadier Guards 1939-1945.

    1944 Aug 14-27 As the battle sweeps away to the east Guards Armoured Division finds itself stranded like so much seaweed in the wake of the advance. While the enemy is racing back towards the few remanding Seine crossings, the 1st and 2nd Battalions rest and reorganise in the rich Normandy orchards.


    So on the date Scase died the Division was at rest.
     
  19. Kyt

    Kyt Very Senior Member

    Should have done this before but I see that Scrase is buried in Didcot. This seems to imply that he either died whilst on leave or from injuries.
     
  20. gen

    gen Senior Member

    Hi Owen, Kyt and ADM,

    Many thanks for this info. I went to the local library today and the records they have including the local newspapers were very poor, in fact non-existant for WW2. They were mainly concerned with advertising local companies and had very little about the war in them. I'm going to try a couple of other libraries in the area which may have more.

    Again many thanks for all your help so far.

    Mike
     

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