Afghan Army Analogy

Afghan Army Analogy

 

US government says there are 88,000 Afghanis who worked for us and need to be evacuated. They won't be, of course. This doesn't include thousands of others who will be killed for violating Sharia law

Definition of HOLOCAUST

 

Corruption like Army Units that on paper number 1,000 but in reality are 700 strong with the phantom 300 wages being kept by the Commander.

 

You got that right.

 

A different perspective, the author being a Vietnamese refugee in 1975 who became an American, serving his country, which included a tour in Afghanistan. In short the USA has a debt of honour to those who served with them.
Link: Don’t Fail America’s Allies: The Plight of Afghans Left Behind - War on the Rocks

Somehow I doubt all those running on the runway at Kabul airport are those he seeks to honour.

 

World War II by country - Wikipedia

Afghanistan[edit]
Main article: History of Afghanistan
Under the Prime Minister Mohammad Hashim Khan, Afghanistan stayed neutral. The kingdom had close relations with all three Axis powers and had agreements with them for assistance with infrastructure and trade.[2] Despite British pressure, Afghanistan maintained friendly relations with the Axis during the war. In 1940, the Afghanistan legation in Berlin asked whether Germany would cede land in British India to Afghanistan if it should win the war; specifically, the king and minister wanted to acquire all the ethnic Pashtun land between the Durand Line and the Indus River.[3] Despite this stated goal, Afghanistan stayed out of the war, neither suffering an attack nor attacking any other country.

In 1941, Western press reported that Amanullah Khan, a former king who lost his throne in a civil war in the 1920s, was working as an agent for Nazi Germany in Berlin.[4] It is believed he was involved in plans to regain his throne with Axis help.[5] Following the Axis loss in Stalingrad in 1943, the plans cooled off and were never executed.[6]

 

Just in case you would like to see if Robert McNamara's 11 lessons from Vietnam are relevant, here they are:

 

Wrong to meddle in other countries ,when we cannot put our own house in order. Corrupt country , who lost their paymasters and rolled over. No military failings just down as always to money and greed and spin from the media.



Kyle

 

The linked book is from 1897 - Apart from an unusually large focus on railroad construction and the Victorian choice of words, most of the text could be taken one-to-one for today.
Those responsible should perhaps also have taken a look at the statements starting on page 17:
"If you send 27,000 men up the Bolam to Candahar, and
can feed them, I have no doubt you can take Candahar and
Cabul and set up Soojah, but as for maintaining him in a
poor, cold, strong, and remote country, among a turbulent
people like the Afghans, I own it seems to me to be hopeless.(...)"

https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1118&context=afghanuno

 

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thats the nicest thing you have ever called me

 

Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results

 

Lady Butler's "The remnants of an army, Jellalabad (Jalabad), January 13, 1842" provides an excellent evocation of former colonial folly.

‘The Remnants of an Army’, Elizabeth Butler (Lady Butler), 1879 | Tate

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The 44th Foot were annihilated in the 1842 retreat from Kabul.

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Whilst I agree with every word that you have written, in recent years politicians of every political hue have shown by their actions that they are perfectly capable of breaking a great many eggs without producing a single omelette.

If the situation in Afghanistan wasn't so terribly tragic, the whole bloody mess would be laughable. What on earth were they thinking? Do politicians not read history books?

 

Ditto

1842 retreat from Kabul: Captain Robert Salusbury Trevor

 

Let's be positive: we might have lost in Afghanistan but we managed to identify the bad guys. Some of our recent Middle Eastern ventures where we've set ourselves against the least-bad guys don't really feel like a 'win'.