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Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by Drew5233, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Can find me this chap on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website ! <-----On this site !

    I've been trying to find him for over an hour :mad:

    Jemadar Acting Sudabar RAM SARUP SINGH, VC,

    2nd Battalion, 1st Punjab Regiment, Indian Army.

    Born: 12 April 1919, India.

    Killed: 25 October 1944, Burma.

    Name on Rangoon Memorial (Apparently)

    I suspect there maybe a spelling mistake :unsure:

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  2. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    Andy

    (RAM SARUP SINGH)

    Click this link and you'll find him here.

    VC BURIALS WORLD-WIDE - BURMA

    I can taste it already.:D

    PS - I thought the Jem(h)adar were the soldiers hooked on Ketracelle White used by the Dominion in Star Trek: Deep Space 9
     
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  3. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Robert,
    Well done!:)

    I hope it tastes good:)

    Regards
    Tom
     
  4. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    Tom

    I've got to get it off him first.:Hallutinations:

    Cheers - Robert
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hold ya horses......I've got all that info already ! :lol:

    I'm looking for him on the CWGC Website so I can get his certificate :D

    The cheek of some folk, I dunno ;)
     
  6. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    CWGC :: Casualty Details



    Name: RAM SWARUP SINGH
    Nationality: Indian
    Rank: Subadar
    Regiment/Service: 1st Punjab Regiment
    Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
    Age: 25
    Date of Death: 25/10/1944
    Service No: 46921/IO
    Awards: V C
    Additional information: Son of Jorawar Singh; husband of Nath Kanwar, of Kheri, Patiala, India.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Face 30.
    Memorial: RANGOON MEMORIAL
    Citation: The citation in the London Gazette of 8th February, 1945, gives the following details: In Burma on 25th October, 1944, two platoons of the 1st Punjab Regiment were ordered to attack an enemy position. This was defended by a large force of fresh Japanese troops and every approach was covered by machine-guns. Subadar Ram Swarup Singh's platoon charged the position and the enemy fled, suffering casualties in their retreat. Subadar Ram Swarup Singh led a bayonet charge against a strong counter-attack, killing four of the enemy himself and checking the rest. Although badly wounded he went on again shouting encouragement to his men till finally he was mortally wounded by machine-gun fire. It would be difficult to find a finer example of cool bravery, leadership and determination. His action had a profound effect on the rest of the company, and when volunteers were called for to bring in his body, under the heaviest fire, the entire company responded. Subadar Ram Swarup Singh's gallantry will inspire the Regiment for all time.
     
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  7. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Mine's a Waddy's 6X please.
     
  8. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    Well done Geoff.

    It was a different spelling after all.

    Cheers.:D
     
  9. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Was worth finding, what a citation! Raising a glass of Waddy's to a brave man.

    (I guess the name needs checking)
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Geoff.......You'd da man !

    I thought it may have been after trying different variations for an hour :lol:

    He's not the first Indian VC either with their name spelt incorrectly.

    Rep on it's way Geoff and thanks again :)

    Andy
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    ps The CWGC doesn't list all of the citation's for VC holders.....Something else I found out whilst doing all 182 from WW2 :D
     
  12. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    I've got a headache after that:goodnight:.
     
  13. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    ps The CWGC doesn't list all of the citation's for VC holders.....Something else I found out whilst doing all 182 from WW2 :D

    I wonder why?
     
  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Rob,

    They only show partial citatations. I suspect due to space or being bothered. I've emailed them several times offering them pictures of Memorials in Iraq for their site but have received no reply.

    After much research <----Plug plug plug :D

    The only place I know on the internet that lists the complete citation along with pictures of the the recipient and or their grave etc is here:

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/unit-documents/19802-all-victoria-crosses-world-war-two.html

    Albeit I have around 40 to complete!

    :cheers:
     
  15. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    i failled miserably but do know of another VC winner from the 8th Punjab Regiment (carrier driver) Havildar. Parkash Singh earned it in Burma January 1943 after his heroic actions during battle. he died in 1991.
     
  16. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    The Times May 14 1943
     

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  17. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    From The Times February 9 1945
     

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  18. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    http://www.********.co.uk/WW2talk/sarup.pnghttp://www.********.co.uk/WW2talk/sarup/png
     
  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Great thread chaps, only thinking today that we don't mention the Indians enough on here.
     
  20. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Super detective work by all concerned :GroupHug::)

    Regards
    Tom
     

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