A mystery casualty - 5 May 1944

Discussion in 'Royal Artillery' started by RetiredSeaman, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. RetiredSeaman

    RetiredSeaman Junior Member

    WO2 (BSM) Sydney Arthur Lake (67 Field Regt, RA) died on 5 May 1944 aged 32, he was born late in 1911 at Newton Abbot in Devon. He was a pre-war regular soldier in the Hampshire Regt and had served in India pre-war after transferring to the RA.

    The WW2 Roll of Honour (CD) says he died in the Italian theatre of operations however the Commonwealth War Graves Commission shows him commemorated on the Brookwood Memorial which is normally used for chaps with no known graves such as SOE, SAS, bomb disposal, UK based soldiers lost on raids against enemy occupied Europe and soldiers lost aboard ships/aircraft in western europe.

    If he had died in Italy and had no known grave he should be commemorated on the Cassino Memorial.

    Can anybody help me to understand this please ? What could he have been up to ?
     
  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Retired Seaman

    ONE possibility is that he was wounded in Italy - shipped with a "blighty" one and died as he reached the UK......5th May '44 was the run up to the last Battle - "Diadem" to clear Cassino and the Liri Valley and Hospitals would be clearing out for the expected casualties

    Cheers
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    If you can get to the National Archives the answer maybe in the following file:

    WO 170/950 67 Field Regt RA Jan Dec 1944
     
  4. RetiredSeaman

    RetiredSeaman Junior Member

    Thanks Tom, I had pondered that but decided in that situation the authorities would have had his body to bury properly in the UK and put a headstone up. Even UK cremations were recorded on memorials in local Crem's. This is commemoration of men with no known graves or no body to bury (ie: blown to bits or lost at sea). I cant find an aircraft lost on that date which could have been ferrying seriously wounded lads home, no suitable ship lost that date, nothing.

    Thanks Drew, I'll see if I can get it.
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Please find attached Panel from Brookwood

    LAKE, SYDNEY ARTHUR

    Rank:
    Warrant Officer Class II
    Trade:
    B.S.M.
    Service No:
    5616512
    Date of Death:
    05/05/1944
    Age:
    32
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Artillery

    67 Field Regt.
    Panel Reference
    Panel 2. Column 2.
    Memorial
    BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL
    Additional Information:
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Sydney Arthur Lake; husband of Bertha Lake, of Cullompton, Devon.
     

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  6. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Retired Seaman

    I was merely advancing a possibility as the Cassino commemoration panels include those who were blown to bits etc - range as far as Sicily and Anzio - so it is strange that he is not buried there as the Rapido crossing was not a million miles away

    Cheers
     
  7. RetiredSeaman

    RetiredSeaman Junior Member

    Retired Seaman

    I was merely advancing a possibility as the Cassino commemoration panels include those who were blown to bits etc - range as far as Sicily and Anzio - so it is strange that he is not buried there as the Rapido crossing was not a million miles away

    Cheers


    And its appreciated thanks Tom:cheers:
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Hello Retired Seaman

    contact CWGC
    Example RAF chap Sergeant Robert Walter Theobald who is commemorated on the Malta Memorial in place of Runnymede.
    Please see below from Forum Member ritsonvaljos
    WW2 - The Second World War: WW2 Casuatlies of Fulstow, Lincolnshire

    CWGC will advise further and unless suitable documentation or a family request is made they will keep him on the Brookwood Memorial


    regards
    Clive
     
  9. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    If he had died in Italy and had no known grave he should be commemorated on the Cassino Memorial.

    Can anybody help me to understand this please ? What could he have been up to ?


    He is in the overseas death index, so did not die in blighty. Possibly died at sea? or is commemorated in the wrong place.
     
  10. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    from Overseas death index WW2
     

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  11. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    There is a probate record for Sydney Lake, which strangley states 'died on war service' suggesting that his place of death wasnt recorded correctly.

    At the time of his death he lived at Padbrook Hill Cullumpton, with his wife Bertha.
     
  12. RetiredSeaman

    RetiredSeaman Junior Member

    thanks gentlemen, confusing situation, I reckon the answer may be in the War Diary in London.
     

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