A Good Reason For A War?

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  1. adrian roberts

    adrian roberts Senior Member

    I attach a summary of some serious research from the British Journal of Psychiatry.

    What do you make of it? A good reason to have a war? I wonder how the mental state of the Iraqis altered!

    Adrian
     
  2. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Originally posted by adrian roberts@Jul 21 2005, 09:56 AM
    I attach a summary of some serious research from the British Journal of Psychiatry.

    What do you make of it? A good reason to have a war? I wonder how the mental state of the Iraqis altered!

    Adrian
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    No doubt this would have been commissioned by PM Blair.

    The results however would only be positive if you win as that is what your training instills in you!! Lets hope we do not have to see the results from a loss.


    Geoff
     
  3. 8th KRI

    8th KRI Member

    I agree that it would depend on whether you win, also is it not so that war can be experienced in many different ways depending on the individuals role etc, i.e pilots who perhaps do not experience the trauma of say an infantry man. Also a medic in a front line position as opposed to a cook well behind the front line. I wonder also whether a variable could be the level of the fighting i.e hand to hand with bayonets against a determined foe as opposed to well armed and supplied against a demoralised foe - I suggest the research is too narrow to be of use!

    Chris
     
  4. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Originally posted by 8th KRI@Jul 21 2005, 06:46 PM

    I agree that it would depend on whether you win, also is it not so that war can be experienced in many different ways depending on the individuals role etc, i.e pilots who perhaps do not experience the trauma of say an infantry man. Also a medic in a front line position as opposed to a cook well behind the front line. I wonder also whether a variable could be the level of the fighting i.e hand to hand with bayonets against a determined foe as opposed to well armed and supplied against a demoralised foe - I suggest the research is too narrow to be of use!

    Chris
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    You have hit the nail on the head. The article does not list what trades the participants
    had or what action they saw, which makes it it a bit misleading.

    However, i do remember the comment made a psychiatrist at the local mental hospital who said that WW2 had been a good thing as for a few years after the war the number of patients actually dropped since many psychopaths had had their fill of killing and violence during the war.
     
  5. adrian roberts

    adrian roberts Senior Member

    Thanks chaps
    as you all say it helps to be winning.
    Does anyone know at what point 254 Air Assault Brigade were deployed? I suspect that troops involved in a decisive, traditional war (as in Iraq up to the fall of Baghdad) may well preserve their mental health far better than those who subsequently have to patrol the roads not knowing when a sniper or a car bomb or a suicide bomber will get you.
    Adrian
     
  6. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    Does anyone know at what point 254 Air Assault Brigade were deployed?


    its an American formation. ours is 16 airborne brigade.

    I suspect that troops involved in a decisive, traditional war (as in Iraq up to the fall of Baghdad) may well preserve their mental health far better than those who subsequently have to patrol the roads not knowing when a sniper or a car bomb or a suicide bomber will get you.

    in the first you know where the enemy is and can often see them but in the second, there is the added strain caused by the fact that you cannot see your enemy.

    it is similar to what many will be going through in london after todays attempt.
     
  7. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Originally posted by morse1001@Jul 22 2005, 11:27 AM
    Does anyone know at what point 254 Air Assault Brigade were deployed?

    its an American formation. ours is 16 airborne brigade.

    I suspect that troops involved in a decisive, traditional war (as in Iraq up to the fall of Baghdad) may well preserve their mental health far better than those who subsequently have to patrol the roads not knowing when a sniper or a car bomb or a suicide bomber will get you.

    in the first you know where the enemy is and can often see them but in the second, there is the added strain caused by the fact that you cannot see your enemy.

    it is similar to what many will be going through in london after todays attempt.
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    Hi Morse1001,

    Our thoughts are with you.
     

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