9th British Infantry Brigade WW2 - War Diary and Detective Work

Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by Quis Separabit, May 30, 2019.

  1. Quis Separabit

    Quis Separabit Junior Member

    Evening all

    My dad transferred to 2RUR at the beginning of 1943 (hence 2RUR blog creation) and became "Camp Commandant" of 9th Infantry Brigade Headquarters at the end of 1943 where he remained until the end of the War before becoming a Town Major in Germany and being demobbed in March 1946.

    I have secured the War Diary for 9th British Infantry Brigade for Jan 1944 to Sep 1945 courtesy of Drew5233 and will be posting online as time allows at https://9th-british-infantry-brigade-in-ww2.blogspot.com together with any other bits and pieces I stumble across them.

    During this time the 9th British Infantry Brigade comprised:
    • 2nd Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment - hard copy held of History in North West Europe 6 June 1944 to 8 May 1945 in my possession and will be posted online at some point......
    • 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers
    • 2nd Battalion, Royal Ulster Rifles - see http://royal-ulster-rifles-ww2.blogspot.com
    and so there is reference to these units and their movements together with other units associated with the group on D-Day including:
    • East Riding Yeomanry
    • 33 Field Regiment
    • No 3 Platoon, 253 Field Company
    • 101 Anti Tank Battery
    • 9 Field Ambulance
    • Detachment 106 Bridging Company RASC
    • Detachment 172 Infantry Brigade Company RASC
    so if anyone has anything they want to contribute to the blog for this period then please let me know.

    In the meantime, a bit of detective work for you:
    1. Attached photo of 9th Brigade Headquarters officers was taken some time after 1 April 1945 (when Brigadier Kempster took over from Acting Brigadier GD Renny of KOSB) and shows all officers wearing uniforms/badges relating to their respective units
    2. Return of Officers from 5 May 1945 shows names and units as below (names don't change that often)
    3. Appreciate it isn't a great photo, but can anyone potentially match up the uniform/badges/ages to the names and units listed so that I can name them on the website???

    In the meantime, anyone idea what the role of a "Camp Commandant" was?

    Cheers.

    Quis Separabit

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  2. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    At a divisional level, one reference I has says that the 'Camp Commandant' is responsible for the local administration of the HQ.

    That, of course, could mean a great many things.
     
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  3. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    Camp Commandant was a post on the HQ of an Infantry Brigade (from early 1941 at least), which I understand related to the officer in charge of the Bde HQ area. He was also commander of the Bde's Defence (later Ground Defence) Platoon.

    Gary
     
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  4. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    From what I've read, it sounds as if he was responsible for the siting and layout of the HQ itself and would have a major role when the HQ was moved.
     
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  5. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Far further up the tree, but here's the job description from Allied Forces HQ. I'd imagine the divisional and brigade-level posts carried out very similar duties on a much smaller scale:

    Standard Duties:

    (l) Local security of the headquarters.

    (2) Internal administration and arrangements
    for moving headquarters.

    (3) Detail of orderlies and messengers.

    (4) Supervision of headquarters mess.

    (5) Messing and quartering of casuals.

    (6) Reception of visitors at headquarters.

    To which AFHQ added:

    (1) Procurement and allocation of office space
    and shelter.

    (2) Supply of office equipment, furnishings,
    and stationery.

    (3) Supervision of firewatchers and fire-
    fighters, including supply and maintenance of fire-
    fighting equipment

    Source:
    Full text of "History Of Allied Force Headquarters Part 1: August - December 1942"
     
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  6. Quis Separabit

    Quis Separabit Junior Member


    Thanks - that would explain the other photo in his collection.......

    "Brigadier W Kempster OBE and Lieut MP Scanlon - Defence Platoon HQ - 9th Brit Inf Brigade - Lengerich May45"

    again with a range of uniforms/badges...

    Quis Separabit

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  7. Quis Separabit

    Quis Separabit Junior Member

    Excellent - thanks very much....
     

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