9th Bn Royal Sussex Regiment

Discussion in 'Burma & India' started by Owen, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    I do have a photo of this cemetry and I have seen exactly where he is buried.
    I have just looked but do not have a photo of his headstone. I would appreciate one if anyone has it.
     
  2. Owen

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  3. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

    During second part of November 1944, 72nd Infantry Brigade, and 9th Royal Sussex, fought in Pinwe area. On glosters.tripod site I found this for 24th November

    24th November - More enemy shelling and mortar fire. Two companies of the 9th Royal Sussex advanced and dug in by "D" Coy.

    from here. But nothing more. Looks that your father was the only fatal casualty from the battalion on that day.

    You have map of that area here (look "NG 47-13 Bhamo", last on the list) Pinwe geographical coordinates are 24° 20' 0" North, 96° 12' 0" East.

    Maybe you should try to contact Burmastar also.

    "The Shiny Ninth" is quite rare book. IWM have one copy, maybe you can try to contact them too.
     
  4. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    The 9th. Bn. The sussex regiment were involved in the battle for Hill 66 somewhere in the north of Burma in August 1944. He was in B Coy of that Bn. Can anyone tell me where Hill 66 is exactly or more or less. I am trying to trace the movements of this Bn. in the time they were in Burma.
     
  5. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

    The 9th. Bn. The sussex regiment were involved in the battle for Hill 66 somewhere in the north of Burma in August 1944. He was in B Coy of that Bn. Can anyone tell me where Hill 66 is exactly or more or less. I am trying to trace the movements of this Bn. in the time they were in Burma.

    Is it possible that it was the battle for Hill 60 not Hill 66?

    Reynolds
    Dawes
     
  6. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    Yes it could well have been hill 60
     
  7. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    Yes it was hill 60, I am getting old .............
     
  8. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

    If you look the second sketch map here, you will find Hill 60 marked just little south-west from Pyindaw. If you look here on the map NG 47-9 Myitkyina, Hill 60 should be somewhere along railway which connect Pyindaw with Sahmaw. I guess it is somewhere in the area marked on the map

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  9. Bala

    Bala Member

    Can anyone tell me what the 9th were doing in November 1944 which may have caused this man to die:

    COSGROVE , PATRICK Corporal 5575609 Died 24/11/1944 Age 32 Royal Sussex Regiment Buried 7. H. 18. TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY

    Any help appreciated
     
  10. Dean May

    Dean May Junior Member

    They were involved in the Battle for Pinwe and the Gyobin Chaung as part of the 36th Infantry Division including the 10th Glosters and the 6th South Wales Borderers. Fighting against the strong Japanese 18th Imperial Division.

    Rgds

    Dean
     
  11. Bala

    Bala Member

    Thank you Dean - I shall dig deeper now I know what to look for.

    TTFN
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Can anyone tell me what the 9th were doing in November 1944 which may have caused this man to die:

    COSGROVE , PATRICK Corporal 5575609 Died 24/11/1944 Age 32 Royal Sussex Regiment Buried 7. H. 18. TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY

    Any help appreciated
    That's another ex-Wiltshires soldier going by his Army Number 5575609.

    Wiltshire Regiment 5562001 - 5608000



    I've asked Tony for a grave photo.
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  14. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    I have compiled a data base of all those brave men of the 9th. Btn. Royal Sussex Regiment who died between 1942 and 1946 and can also make a calculated guess as to where they were fighting when they lost their lives.
    If anyone is interested then please reply to this post and I will be pleased to send them a copy.
    If my calculations are correct ! the following is a guide 1942 -1, 1943-10, 1944-76, 1945- 23, 1946-3. TOTAL -113
    By knowing where they were on the dates of their deaths it is reasonable to assume in what major action theymay have been involved in at the time, and according to which cemetery they were laid to rest. you can make a reasonable assumption as to whether they died in batte or from their wounds or other causes. :poppy:
     
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  15. cosgrove70

    cosgrove70 Junior Member

    :poppy:Just found out that the above association has recently been formed. It is hoped that a stone which has been delivered all the way from Pinwe will be used to form the central focus of a memorial which will be sited near the 'Redoubt Museum' on the Eastbourne promenade.

    The association needs around £3000 for the project

    I'm sure that that will not be an impossible task.

    I am in the middle of creating a web site dedicated to the campaign in Burma from 1941-1945.

    I found that it is very difficult to obtain information based on a timeline of how the war in Burma progressed from begining to end, so I'm having a go myself to put as much information as possible on one site, so wish me luck.
     
  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Here's the Battalion War Diaries held at Kew if you can get there:

    WO 166/4602 INFANTRY: 9 Royal Sussex Regiment. 1940 July - 1941 Dec.

    WO 166/8906 9 Royal Sussex Regiment 1942 Jan.- June

    WO 172/2550 9 Royal Sussex Regiment 1943 Apr.- Dec.

    WO 172/4921 9 Royal Sussex Regiment 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 172/7666 9 Royal Sussex Regiment 1945 Jan.-Dec.

    WO 172/10207 9 R. Sussex 1946 Jan., Feb.
     
  17. Andy Crunden

    Andy Crunden Junior Member

    Found this about 9th Sussex at the time Pte Ponting was killed.
    Dawes





    Name:BREWSTER, MAURICE JOSEPH
    Initials:M J
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service:Royal Sussex Regiment
    Unit Text:9th Bn.
    Age:23
    Date of Death:06/08/1944
    Service No:233262
    Additional information:Son of Joseph Stockbridge Brewster and Florence Brewster, of Southwick, Sussex.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:6. G. 18.
    Cemetery:TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY


    Name.DUNFORD, PERCY
    Initials:P
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Lieutenant
    Regiment/Service:Royal Sussex Regiment
    Unit Text:9th Bn.
    Date of Death:05/08/1944
    Service No:249228
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:7. A. 11.
    Cemetery:TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY

    Name:BRIGHT, WILLIAM
    Initials:W
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Private
    Regiment/Service:Royal Sussex Regiment
    Unit Text:9th Bn.
    Age:21
    Date of Death:05/08/1944
    Service No:5350377
    Additional information:Ward of Mrs. B. Hanslip, of Redbridge, Southampton.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:7. B. 8.
    Cemetery:TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY

    This Sergeant is mentioned in Len Dawe's account.

    Name:ALLEN, FREDERICK RICHARD
    Initials:F R
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Serjeant
    Regiment/Service:Royal Sussex Regiment
    Unit Text:9th Bn.
    Age:24
    Date of Death:05/08/1944
    Service No:5337445
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:7. G. 4.
    Cemetery:TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY


    Name:CRUNDEN, FREDERICK GEORGE
    Initials:F G
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Lance Serjeant
    Regiment/Service:Royal Sussex Regiment
    Unit Text:9th Bn.
    Age:36
    Date of Death:05/08/1944
    Service No:6396611
    Additional information:His brother, Ronald Allenby Crunden, also died on service.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:7. G. 5.
    Cemetery:TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY



    Hi I'm new to this site having found it by accident. My grandfather was Frederick George Crunden as mentioned, it has only been in the last 10 years or so that I have learned that he had three other brothers two of which were also killed :(.
    I had the pleasure of meeting the surviving brother yesterday for the first time :D, he is now 85 years young. I have attached a photo of the officers and NCOs of "C" company which was taken in Poona 1943.
    I hope this may be of interest to you.
    scan0008.jpg
    Thanks Andy
     
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  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Andy - Welcome to the forum and many thanks for posting the pic.

    Andy
     
  19. David Maile

    David Maile Junior Member

    Hi All,
    I posted yesterday on this site that my father Bert Maile who arranged the re-print of the 'Shiny Ninth' book by Murray Gillings passed away in October of 2007, which is why he was not available via email (see previous posts). I do recall that he sent a number of copies of the book to the Royal Sussex Museum in Eastbourne in 2006. I have no contact address or number, but they may still have some left as he sent a substantial amount (50 or so I seem to remember).
    Unfortunately, when my mother passed-away in 2010 I never kept any contact numbers of particular people who may still be able to help with enquiries, though I did hear that Henry Stock, who had helped arrange the re-print of the book with my father, also passed away sometime in 2010.
    There was, at one point a few years back, copies of the 'Shiny Ninth' turning up on Amazon and E Bay, and for those who are interested it is well worth the purchase if you are fortunate enough to locate a copy.
    It is now with deep regret that I did not take up my father's offer of carrying the torch of the Shiny Ninth and Pinwe Club into a new era. It was his hope that relatives of the men that served would continue the annual re-union, usually held at Eastbourne, the last of which was held in 2008.
    For those who are still enquiring, and building websites, and helping others trace the movements of particular relatives who fell, may I, on behalf of my late father and I'm sure his colleagues (some of whom are still with us, no doubt), thankyou deeply for keeping the memory of this fine regiment alive.
    When I think of this regiment, and some of the men I met and heard of through my father, this poem always springs to mind:

    “Eventually
    All things decline
    Everything falters, dies and ends
    Towers cave in, walls collapse
    Roses wither, horses stumble
    Cloth grows old, men expire
    Iron rusts and timber rots away
    Nothing made by hand will last
    I understand the truth
    That all must die, both clerk and lay
    And the fame of men now dead
    Will quickly be forgotten
    Unless the clerk takes up his pen
    And brings their deeds to life again…”
    (Wace, ‘Roman de Rou’, c.1170)

    All power to you chaps on here, keeping the memory alive.

    David Maile.
     
  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks for that David, we do try our best to 'Remember Them' on here.

    It's shame I never contatced your Dad in 2006 when I first thought of it.
     

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