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7th Argyll and sutherland highlanders

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by John Hood, Mar 4, 2025.

  1. John Hood

    John Hood Member

    Hi. I'm visiting Sicily in May and will follow the route taken by my father who served with the 7th Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. They landed on the south coast and proceeded north and were involved in a major battle at Gerbini.
    Does anyone have a relative that served in the 7th A & SH and was involved in the Sicily campaign?
    I look forward to hearing from you.

    John Hood
     
  2. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    John,

    Welcome aboard and thanks for the offer. Just searched online with for known members with an interest: "7 Argyll and sutherland highlanders" site:ww2talk.com and "7th..." plus "7 A&S..." No threads here match. A couple of names mentioned when awarded medals for their actions.

    I wonder if their museum would like to suggest names? See: The Argyll Sutherland Highlanders Museum
     
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  3. John Hood

    John Hood Member

    Thanks for your helpful reply.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi John

    I have the battalion war diary covering 1943 inc all appendices = WO 169/10173 7 Argyl and Sutherland Highlanders Jan-Dec 1943

    I'm donating my usual fee to a military charity this year so let me know if you'd like a copy.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
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  5. John Hood

    John Hood Member

    Hi Andy.
    I've got the History of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 7th Battalion 1939 45 book which obviously covers the Sicily campaign.
    Is the war diary a more detailed account of the Battalions activities in Sicily?
    If so I'd be delighted to have copy.
    What's would your fee be?

    Regards.

    John
     
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  6. Antonio1954

    Antonio1954 Member

    Hi, my name is Antonio and I'm writing from Sicily. I'm looking for news about the 51st Highland Division. They entered my town, Linguaglossa, with the sound of bagpipes on August 15, 1943. I'd like more information about their presence, including the name of their commander. I only have the name of one soldier, Sergeant J. Hurren, and that's all. There's a war diary from their stay. Any information could be helpful. Thank you. I'm available if anyone needs news about Sicily. Thank you.
     
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  7. Antonio1954

    Antonio1954 Member

    I often find 7th Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders written but I'm looking for the 51^ Highland Division, are they the same thing? Excuse me for this stupid question but I am not very well versed in British military matters.
     
  8. Owen

    Owen Member

    7th A&SH were just one battalion in many that made up the 51st Div.
    See the order of battle for WW2 here.
    51st (Highland) Division - Wikipedia

    Battalions and Units of the 51st Highland Division
     
  9. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

  10. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    History of 51st Highland Division, by J.B. Salmond, has 1st Gordons as entering the village.
     

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  11. Hi John, I am only seeing this post now a good while after your trip, I hope it went well. My Grandfather LCpl Peter Gunn was killed at the Battle of Gerbini in the early hours of 21.07.1943. I have a fair bit of info on this. Not sure if we can private message on here but I am happy if you want to get in touch to share any information. Cheers for now Kenny Clements.
     
  12. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Kenny,

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  13. John Hood

    John Hood Member

    Thanks for getting back to me Kenny. I visited the Gerbini battle area and tried to imagine it from a 1943 perspective. Obviously much changed but the roads are probably as they were then. Felt emotional standing where the Argylls probably launched their attack. Hard to contemplate what they experienced. Sorry to hear your Grandfather lost his life there. A hero to the last.
     
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  15. Thank you David, appreciate that :)
     
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  17. No worries John. Yes it is a very emotional experience indeed. We were at Gerbini train station knowing that Peter is lying within the industrial orchard adjacent to the station. As there was no body recovered he is commemorated at Monte Cassino which we managed to visit in 1993 on the 50th anniversary. Cheers for now Kenny
     
  18. John Hood

    John Hood Member

    Cheers Kenny
     
  19. Kenny Thomson

    Kenny Thomson New Member

    Hi John

    My father was at Gerbini with 7th A & SH. (2982736 John Thomson from Menstrie). He must have served with your dad. He talked about Gerbini as being hard going and he nearly "Bought it" there. I believe they came up against the Herman Goering Division, which put up a much greater resistance than the Italians they had encountered since landing at Cape Passero. I think my dad was in "C" company. He talked about being pinned down in an antitank ditch and cut off from HQ which ties up with Battalion diary and any personal accounts I've read on the Battle. I would be happy to share some photographs of my dads. I don't have any specific to Gerbini, but there are some of his company. I have attached one marked "Fort Alberto" which I think is near Messina. He was able to name every man. It would be interesting to know if our dad's paths crossed?

    Kenny
     

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  20. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Kenny,

    Welcome aboard.

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