7012728 Francis GLOVER, Royal Ulster Rifles

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  1. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    E7BB9ACE-980C-4D4D-BB99-849896A057B4.jpeg Hi am looking for help to find out about my grandfather. His name was Francis Glover from comber Co Down Northern Ireland. I believe he was in the royal Ulster rifles and possibly a paratrooper. I have photos and no he was in bourley camp aldershot 1936 as its on one of the pics also picks from China and Middle East I think A3BF9783-A85C-4CFC-A890-855B7B17144C.jpeg
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Andrew

    The very first action you need to do is to obtain his service records, they are only available from the MOD and the link for the forms is Requests for personal data and service records: a detailed guide they are not available anywhere else, and will provide you with the outline of where he served, in which units and when he served in them. It will stop all the guessing and following false trails
    They really are the skeleton you need to understand his military service. When you have them I would suggest you start a new thread solely for him so to keep all his details in one place

    TD

    Perhaps Mods can move it to a thread of its own
     
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  3. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Welcome to the forum. I saw your earlier post on GWF.

    Hopefully a MOD will move this to a stand-alone topic and you could then post all the pictures you posted on GWF.

    I’d echo TD’s above comments. Very few WW2 records are in the public domain - unlike WW1.

    Your starting point ought to be making a MOD application.

    Good Luck.

    Steve
     
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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Moved your query to its own thread, Andrew.
    (And sorry if you received a garbled notification message. My phone misbehaved.)
    Gave it a quick title, but you can edit it to anything you think more appropriate.

    Good luck,
    ~A
     
  5. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

  6. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    A few more pics. Feel free to share or use if need. And many thanks for all your help
     
  7. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    1st Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles were posted to Hong Kong in the 1930's, that might explain the China Light and Power Co. Ltd. photograph?
    They were also on the N.W.F. in India when war started.
    The 1st Battalion were converted to an airborne glider unit and became the 1st (Airborne) Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles.
     
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  8. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    Yes my father said he was on the N.W.F in India. Great info thank you. Much appreciated
     
  9. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    If he served on NWF pre war you may find him listed on the India GSM rolls that are on either Ancestry or FMP.

    He’ll be listed by Surname and initials so you’ll likely be able to identify his service number from the medal roll - but in any event MOD will search for his service record based on his DOB & full name only.

    You’ll also need his death certificate. If he died in the north of Ireland you’ll have to apply via PRO NI -

    Death certificate application form | nidirect

    Steve
     
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  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Possibly him

    UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
    Name: F Glover
    Service Date: 1937-1939
    Service Place: India
    Campaign or Service: India - NW Frontier
    Regiment or Unit Name: 1st Battalion The Royal Ulster Rifles
    Regimental Number: 7012728
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    TD
     
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  11. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    OMG this has just sent shivers up my spine! I really can’t thank you all enough for taking the time to find this information. Greatly appreciated
     
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  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Its now becoming urgent (if you havent already) to send off for his service records

    TD
     
  13. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Wounded in action in Normandy June 1944, serving with the 2nd Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles, date not recorded.
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  14. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    Yes am going to speak to my father tonight. See what else he can remember and I think he might have a death certificate
     
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  16. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    No way. I remember a story I was only little of my grandfather being in hospital not long before he passed away. And for some reason they were taking ex rays of his legs and they said there was shrapnel in them
     
  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    His service records should record when he was injured so with that info you can look through the war diaries in Guys link above (or straight there via 2nd Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles in WW2: 2RUR War Diary), which may indicate the location/position he was in when injured

    TD
     
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  18. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    Thank you!
     
  19. andrew glover

    andrew glover Member

    Met with my father tonight. Told me he also was in Berma and had the Berma star Medal
     
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