6th D Day landing beach and their code names - Band Beach etc.

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by frankkelsall, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Just looking at a photo of a map of UTAH dated April 6th '44 it is marked as Queen, Roger, Sugar, Tare, Uncle,Victor. (William must be off the map.)
    All the areas & sectors were laid down in NEPTUNE Orders ON1 Appendix VIII Annexe B.

    Looking maps from D-Day Museum at Portsmouth also dated 6th April '44, labelled ON1 Appendix VII Annexe A
    GOLD has
    ITEM Green and Red
    JIG Green & Red
    KING Green & Red
    LOVE Green only.

    JUNO
    KING Red
    LOVE Green only
    MIKE Green & Red
    NAN Green, White & Red

    SWORD
    PETER Red
    QUEEN Green, White & Red
    ROGER Green, White & Red.

    Not all the beaches were used though.


    The book I'm refering to is D-Day , Operation Overlord, From its planning to the Liberation of Paris published by BCA/Salamander Books 1993.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    on the book,it looks like commando,s,i rekon it is a diversionally attack,in case of problems in the origional 3 div cossac plan.yours,4thwilts.

    No Lee, you're misreading the diagram.
    Follow the arrows, all those units landed on SWORD.
     
  3. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    next time i get my kidneys,liver,colon and neck,ultra sounded and x-rays,i will get my eyes done too.lee;)
     
  4. frankkelsall

    frankkelsall Junior Member

    I'd like to know how far into the planning stage that BAND was dropped.
    Quite early, I imagine?
    Our guide in France said that Band was cancelled at "the last minute" because the Germans had flooded the area and the troops moved across to Sword
    Think the idea might have been to link up with airborne at Ranvill (Pegasus) and take the bridges over the Orne and loop round to Caen.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    cancelled at "the last minute"

    Can't see that myself as who was meant to land there?
    Maybe Lee was right , maybe it was the Commandos who were meant to land there?
     
  6. frankkelsall

    frankkelsall Junior Member

    Think it needs somebody with the book to read the chapter and report back. Fancy doing that Owen?
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Frank,
    You Guide was right saying there was a beach called BAND but I think he is wrong to say landings were cancelled at last minute.
    I can't find anything that refers to it.
    Who was your guide & who does he work for?
    We could ask him where he got that info from.
     
  8. frankkelsall

    frankkelsall Junior Member

    Thanks Owen. Can`t remember his name but he works for Battlebus.I will email them and try to get an answer. I`ve just brought the book so after I get it and have a good read I hope that I will learn a lot more about Overlord.
     
  9. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    morgan and most of his staff were kicked out,big time,when eisenhour and monty took over.the origional plan,not just the beaches were also out.;)lee.
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  11. frankkelsall

    frankkelsall Junior Member

    Just looking at their site , Frank.
    >> Battlebus - Tours of the D-Day beaches and battlefields of Normandy

    What did you think of them?
    I think that they were FANTASTIC!! 11 out of 10. We did three of their tours and had two different guides. Both were very good and really new their stuff. Lots of photo`s to compare how the ground is now with how it looked in 1944.They are not cheap but all the tours seem to charge about the same. Max of 8 people in a nice new mini bus. If you are going, try to visit the guns at Mont Canisy. I don`t think it is on any of the tours but if you are driving it is easy to find by car just west of Deauville.
    Frank
     
  12. Compo

    Compo Member

    I seem to remember reading, sorry I cannot remember where, that SWORD beach had to be narrowed from the original plan because of the shallow waters offshore. I do not think this was last minute though, just when the plans were shared with the Royal Navy.

    The colour scheme red white and green, sectors of beaches, corresponds with the navy night time lighting scheme, both British and American.
    Facing forward;
    Red light = port side

    White = center
    Green light = starboard side

    The normal idea is to be able to tell if a ship is heading away from you or straight at you at night.
    Regards​
     
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  13. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    what we need is morgans plans;)lee.
     
  14. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    if my memory serves me right,morgan was only landing 1 corps hq on d-day.yours,4th wilts.;)
     
  15. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    o.k guys,i been googling and what not,and finally found gen morgans planning staff,or one them anyway.brigadier kenneth r mclean.he was a planner of the 1943 cossac team.yours,4th wilts.:)
     
  16. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    it seems there were supposed to be landings east of sword,but had to be scrapped,because too many landing craft etc.were needed for the anvil op.yours,4th wilts.
     
  17. Korps Steiner

    Korps Steiner Senior Member

     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    took white sector and the South Lancs red sector due to the different coloured roses of the two counties

    Ah, Paul, putting it like that I can see what Brian was getting at.
    Sorry , Brian.
    The gave the white & red beaches to those Regiments for that reason, not named that way.
     
  19. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    i cant find any names of the 3 beaches morgan was going to land 8 brigades and 1 corps h.q plus several commando and ranger battalions,over.yours,4th wilts.;)
     
  20. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

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