3457144 Stanley MURPHY; 6 Royal Scots Fusiliers

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by Stan Dean, May 6, 2011.

  1. Owen

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  2. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Just a nit pick, but the Royal Scots among us might be a tad annoyed to think they are being confused with the Royal Scots Fusilers. After all, the Royal Scots are the First of Foot, whereas the Royal Scots Fusliers are a bit further down the Army List at 21st.
    Chris
     
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  3. Joe Brown

    Joe Brown WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Chris.

    It has always been a problem! A noted Canadian historian writing about the clearing of the Scheldt at one point refers to the 7/9 Royal Scots Fusiliers capturing the German Command Post in Flushing and not to the 7/9 Royal Scots, my letter drawing this to his attention was ignored. Up The Royals !
     
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  4. My apologies, very sorry I asked now. My own fault for not typing the whole wording on one line, certainly not meant to mean that I thought that the Royal Scots Fusiliers were the same as the Royal Scots.
    I will go and seek my information elsewhere.
     
  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    One nit-pick, Dawn. And an entirely fair and very small one - pointing out the different but similar names/nicknames/short forms of a regiment, and how the danger of conflating them is definitely there - something that could have a real bearing on researching an individual.


    Nothing to do with 'one line'.
    They were only referring to this.
    Not a trace of rudeness that I can see, from them.
    Ah well, if replies including passing commentary from WW2 Veterans aren't good enough... we'll just have to refund your membership.
    Oh, hang on, it's free to join isn't it.
    People offer advice in reply to a question, in their own time, for free.
    £0.00
    Nada.
    Not a sausage.

    Hoohum.
     
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  6. Oh my goodness, I certainly wasn't intending to offend anyone. I have apologised for my mistake in failing to type the Royal Scots Fusiliers twice, that was completely my mistake when typing. I was just hoping to find out some information for my Uncle whose father was killed whilst serving with the Royal Scots Fusiliers and has had no information about his father for the last 70 years. We are taking him to Normandy for the last time this year as he is unable to make the trip after that and I thought it would be nice if we could actually have some more sights to visit other than the grave where his father might have been. I just stumbled across this sight last night whilst doing some internet research and was hoping that someone from the Royal Scots Fusiliers or their relatives may have some memories of being at the Battle of Epsom and of their arrival in Normandy. I understand they landed at Normandy on the 24th June and I wondered if anyone knew where they landed.
    I would not mean to cause offence to anyone and certainly not veterans who I have the upmost respect for.
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Splendid.
    we can move on then.
     
  8. Swiper

    Swiper Resident Sospan

    I am currently sketching up a fresh Epsom battlefield tour (bit like the BAOR ones) for my new 'series'.

    The Scottish Corridor is very easy to visit and explore, I recommend Ian Daglish's book on Epsom and going off that.

    As for Regimental confusion... reminds me of the Welsh/Welch debate...
     
  9. Tom OBrien

    Tom OBrien Senior Member

    Does anyone have the war diary for early 1940. There are some humorous remarks about relations with the Canadians in Aldershot and surrounding district in the regimental history that I thought might be based on this source, and it would be interesting to know exactly where the 6 RSF were billeted before heading off to France.

    Regards

    Tom
     
  10. Ben Connor

    Ben Connor Junior Member

    Hi Iain I really hope you don't mind me contacting you as I realise this is an old thread. I wondered whether you would mind looking at your list of men for me. I am looking for my Grandfather Donald Stuart/Stewart. I think he was Driver for Col. Ian Mackenzie. ( I may be wrong).I have been researching him for the last year, getting along very slowly as no expertise whatsoever! Thanks to looking at this thread and all your advice on here I am going to send off for his military records. His number was 2873564. I have his Soldier's Release Book and Pay Book. Hope you see this! Thanks!
     
  11. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    hello Ben.
    I'm afraid I won't have anything for him in my records.
    His Number is for the Gordon Highlanders, which is the regiment he would have attested for. He may have later joined the RSF.
    Can you take a photo of the pay book that shows where he served? it may help.
    cheers
    Iain
     
  12. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone, I know this is an old thread, but like Dawnbutterworth, I have someone who was in the Royal Scots Fusiliers and who died on the same day as her Great Uncle, but was not buried in the same cemetery as Fred Hardman, and likewise he was living not in Scotland but in Hawarden, Flintshire as far as I can tell. My interest is in :-

    Fusilier PRESTON, RONALD
    Service Number 14207896
    Died 26/06/1944
    Aged 24
    6th Bn. Royal Scots Fusiliers
    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Preston; husband of Rose Preston, of Hawarden, Flintshire.
    Buried at HOTTOT-LES-BAGUES WAR CEMETERY

    He was in the same Bn and died on the same day, so I wondered if anyone can tell me what and where young Ronald would have been on the 26th June 1944. Apparently he was listed as Missing on the 29th June 1944 and the another Casualty List stated he had die on the 26th June.
    Kindest regards,
    Mavis
     
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  14. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much TD., once more you rescue me. I appreciate your help . Kindest regards, Mavis
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Frederick Hardman was initially buried in Norrey en Bessin

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  16. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you TD, so the Bn must have been scattered, as Ronald Preston was initially buried in St. Manvieu. I am attaching the Casualty Lists. Thanks again, Mavis
     

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  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I wasnt there so its difficult to comment - today we can only make assumptions or best guess's on the details we see and read

    TD
     
  18. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Very true TD, very true. Regards, Mavis
     
  19. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Mavis - if you can obtain the casualty lists then please next time get hold of the concentration pages (if available) from their CWGC casualty page it often tells you where they were first buried before being brought together in a more communal cemetery, it may answer your question before you ask it

    TD
     
  20. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Will do, thanks. Mavis
     

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