6th Battalion The Cameronians

Hi All - just wondered if anybody had the 1945 war diary for the above name unit? If not has anyone got any ideas where I may get a copy?

Thanks

 

I've got the Battalion history if there is a specific date/action you want looked up

 

Hi and thanks for your message. I was researching the MM and Bar to Cpl William Robertson who won his second MM during the attack on Alpon. I was hoping the war diary may shed some light. It’s surprising that for such a rare double award it doesn’t seem to feature in the press of the day much.

 

Recommendation for Award for Robertson, William Rank: Rifleman, Lance Corporal ... | The National Archives
Reference: WO 373/52/760
Name Robertson, William
Rank: Rifleman, Lance Corporal
Service No: 324420
Regiment: 6 Battalion The Cameronians Scottish Rifles
Theatre of Combat or Operation: North West Europe 1944-45
Award: Military Medal
Date of announcement in London Gazette: 22 March 1945
Folio: 1249-1250
Date: 1945

 

Name: Robertson, William (MM). Rank: Cpl. Number: 3244200. Regiment: 6th (Lanarkshire)... | The National Archives
Reference: WO 373/54/359
Name: Robertson, William (MM).
Rank: Cpl.
Number: 3244200.
Regiment: 6th (Lanarkshire) Bn, The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles).
Award: Bar to Military Medal.
Theatre of War: North West Europe.
Folio(s): 659.
Date: 1945 June 21

 

Dorset Man, i see many people reacted already in the mean time.

I dont have the Wardiary of the 6th , but did some research.
CPL
William MM ROBERTSON
Service Number 3244200

In the National archives you can donwload the File WO 373-54_6
Ofcourse filenumbers are not correct, but i found it. unfortunatly not the best quality. See attachment.

I tried to read, maybe you can fill up the gaps in the text, mainly at the end.

On 9 Mar 1945 "A "Company launched a dawn
attack on the milk factory North of Alpon.
The two leading platoons ran into very heavy
opposition and no news was heard of them
since first light.
At 1100 hrs Cpl Robertson was ordered to
take a recce patrol to find out the situation.
The ground leading to the factory was swept with
heavy MG fire whilst snipers were very active.
Cpl Robertson led his patrol over the open
ground with great skill and under heavy Fire
and brought back information of enemy defences

wich was of the .... ....to a subsequent attack, and captured two prisoners, the information from one of them was of great value.
The ..., busted over the hours .... heavy fire

 

Nothing for the MM or Bar in the Battalion history, he is listed in the Nominal Roll and also the Honours and Awards sections but no extra info

 

Hello,
Member Peter Halsall was effectively looking up the same event at thread:
The Battle of Alpon: the fate of 6th Cameronians SR
which you may care to peruse.
It involves a long scroll, but there are snippets on page 14 of the 2005 Regimental Journal at:
http://www.cameronians.org/_covenanter_editions/Covenanter2002-2008v7.pdf
together with other battlefield visit pieces in other years’ editions, not seen. I know a few former Cameronians and will ask if they know any viable sources that may be fruitful. The link I put in to an image etc of Robertson’s medals does not seem to work now.

 

Thanks all - that’s all been really useful. Looks like a trip to Kew good be in order to have a look at the war diary. For everyone’s interest I found this picture which I assume was for the award of his first MM.

 

Hi,
could you possibly check the Bn history to see if a Capt/Major A Simpson is mentioned?

Cheers,

Rick

 

Rick
You've asked Alistair for help and so have probably missed the sad news.
AB64 / Alistair

 

Hi there. I'm looking into info on the battalions movements on 19 January 1945

Hi there. I'm looking into the movements of the battalion on or around 19th January in the area of saeffert . I'm trying to get the background to my grandfather's death on the 19th (he's buried in the war graves cemetery in Sittard) as I'm planning a trip there later in the year. Thanks in advance for any information.

 

Hi Phil

I have a complete set of the 6th Cameronian war diaries. If you'd like a copy of any specific year drop me a message, I'm currently donating my fee to charity.

Cheers
Andy

 

Hi Andy
I'm looking into the last movements of my grandad Eric Peter Meer who was in the 6th Cameronians and was killed 19th January 1945. Any info would be greatly appreciated and let me know how to make a donation as a token of my thanks.

Cheers
Phill Meer

 

Phil,
details i have on him :
Killed in Action Battle of Roer Triangle (Operation Blackcock) - Breberen, Germany 19/01/45.
Born Bradford 17/06/1910. A French Polisher's Labourer. Son of Arthur and Elizabeth Meer. Husband of Laura Meer, of Heckmondwike, Yorkshire (m.1935, 1x child).
I have a photo of him from civilian life - think I got it off another website.

Cheers,
Smithy

 

Hi Phil,
I live in Sittard around the corner of the grave where youre grandfather is layed to rest. Im also looking for the same information as i want to know more about Andrew Currie, wich grave i adopted.

 

Have put this together for post May 45 to disbandment without seeing the War Diary:

156th Infantry Brigade

21st Army Group later British Army of the Rhine (under construction)

 

Hi I wonder if you could help. My uncle was in the 6th Cameronians he was killed on 9th March 1945 he was 19 years old. My mum an I visited his grave last year in Reichwald war cemetery and let him know he will never be forgotton. I am just trying to get as much information as I can to make sure he is never forgotten. His name is Charles Alexander Hunter Scott. His brother was killed fighting with the 2nd battalion of the West Yorkshire regiment at Admin box on the 21st Feb 1944 he was a sergeant his name is Robert Stewart Scott. He was 20 years old. We plan on visiting his grave in Burma. I just want to make sure these lads are never forgotten and if I can pass there sad sacrifice and stories on in an accurate way I will. I dont know if you can help with any information or guide me to anyone who can help.
Kind regards
John Cliffe
07891641974
cliffyz121@googlemail.com

 

Hi Andy My Uncle was in the 6th battalion Cameronians he was killed on 9th March 1945. My mum and I visited his grave at Riechwald war cemetery to let him know he will never be forgotten. He was 19 years old. I am trying to find out what happened to him in order to portrait his story and sacrifice. His name is Charles Alexander Hunter Scott. He wrote to my Nan just before he was killed stating he couldn’t wait to see his baby sister (my mum) how was born in 1940. My mum is 85 and we will never forget her brothers who both sacrificed their lives for us. Her other brother Sgnt Robert Stewart Scott was killed in Burma on 21st Feb 1944 in the battle at Admin box 2nd battalion West Yorkshire regiment. He was 20years old. I hope you can help in any way with any information.
Kind regards
John

 

John,

Please delete your mobile number and personal email. Bad things can happen when the bots find them. Members can connect using the Private Message (PM) option - you get access after x5 posts.

AB64 has passed. Others may be able to help.

I would suggest you start separate threads for each subject in this section: Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy

In the title use: full name, DoB (Date of Birth), Service Number and unit.

Charles's Service No. is: 14791088. From: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/f...tails/2041750/charles-alexander-hunter-scott/

Robert's Service No. is: 4538523. From: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2262748/robert-stewart-scott/

For this subject add a cross-reference to this thread for background.

We always recommend applying for their Service Records, but neither are currently shown as held by The National Archives.

That may mean his record is still with the MoD or it is with TNA being processed for release. If you follow the web link given you can ask where it is and they will reply. See: Get a copy of military records of service