6350974 Private Charles William NORRIS, 1st Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Reg): 4/2/44

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Remembering Today

    Casualty
    Private NORRIS, CHARLES WILLIAM
    Service Number 6350974
    Died 04/02/1944
    Aged 27
    1st Bn. Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
    Son of Alfred Cecil and Lilian Norris, of New Cross, London; husband of Dorothy Norris, of New Cross.
    INSCRIPTION: GONE FROM OUR HOME BUT NOT FROM OUR HEARTS. YOUR DUTY NOBLY DONE. AT REST

    Buried at ANZIO WAR CEMETERY
    Location: Italy
    Number of casualties: 1038
    Cemetery/memorial reference: I, U, 2.
     
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  3. Owen

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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Charles Norris
    Given Initials: C W
    Rank: Private
    Death Date: 4 Feb 1944
    Number: 6350974
    Birth Place: London N
    Residence: London N
    Branch at Enlistment: Infantry
    Theatre of War: Italy
    Regiment at Death: Duke of Wellington's Regiment (West Riding)
    Branch at Death: Infantry

    TD
     
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  5. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Alfred Cecil Norris
    Marriage Age: 24
    Birth Date: abt 1889
    Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1913
    Marriage Place: Christ Church, Camberwell, Southwark, England
    Father: Stephen Thomas Norris
    Spouse: Lilian Grove

    Rollins Street, Deptford, 1937:
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    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    44 Rollins Street, Deptford, London
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Alfred C Norris 13 Apr 1889 Fitter Lifts Escalators
    Lilian Norris 01 May 1889 Unpaid Household Duties
    Charles W Norris 10 Jun 1915 Food Manufacturers Bye Products
    Herbert F Norris 29 Dec 1917 Paper Packer
    Bertie R Norris 20 Feb 1921 Heavy Labourer Paper M?
    Lilian E I Best (Norris) 08 Apr 1923 Packer Of Ebonite
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
    Eric J Norris 02 Nov 1929 At School


    Marriages Mar 1941
    Norris Charles W Gatty Camberwell 1d 1261
    Gatty Dorothy Norris Camberwell 1d 1261

    1 son, born 1943.

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    Wounded:
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    KIA:
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  6. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    His brother was also KIA:

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    First name(s) Herbert Francis
    Last name Norris
    Birth year 1918
    Age 26
    Death year 1944
    Death date 19 Oct 1944
    Number 6915601
    Rank Corporal
    Unit 8th (2nd Bn. The London Rifle Brigade) Bn
    Regiment Rifle Brigade
    Grave reference III. D. 5.
    Cemetery or Memorial Venray War Cemetery
    Burial country Netherlands
    Additional information Son of Alfred Cecil and Lilian Norris; husband of Rose N. Norris, of New Cross, London.
     
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  7. Wobbler

    Wobbler Well-Known Member

    Clive, may I take this opportunity to thank you for remembering Private Norris. I have discovered just this week that he was married to my cousin (who I never knew), Dorothy Gatty, which led me to your post.

    Dorothy’s own brother, George Gatty, was also killed, at Argenta Gap in April 1945. I recently also “discovered” George, again a cousin I never knew or even knew I had. I speak of him here:

    6099827 L/Cpl George James GATTY, 1st Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment): KIA 13 April 1945

    Thanks too to all of you who contributed here. I have not yet looked any further into Charles’ family history so did not know of his brother Herbert, nor that Charles had been wounded in 1943 with the 1st West Kents (presumably at Peter’s Corner/Cactus Farm).

    I wonder if he transferred to the Duke of Wellington’s Regt immediately after recovering from his wounds as clearly he was not with the West Kents when he was killed. His records will reveal all, of course, but I have a few other family records to obtain first. I may well drop a line to the Duke of Wellington’s RA as I see they have a research facility.

    Anyway, thank you all for this thread.

    Martin
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    We should give kudos to geoff501 -he gave us the code that featured randomly selected names from the cwgc database.
    We nominated CL1 to start a thread for each of them.
     
  9. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Martin.

    I have worked out the whole story of how LCpl Gatty was killed on 13 Apr 45. The battalion was tasked with capturing two bridges on the Fosse Marina as part of the break into the Argenta Gap.

    One Company was very, very badly mauled on landing from the Lake in Buffaloes whilst trying so capture the Fosse Marina bridge and hamlet of Cassa Di Bando and the other was beaten up as it secured and then held on to the bridge further to the south.

    A bad day for 1 Buffs. Most of the soldiers and almost all the junior officers came from 99 LAA Regt RA when they were disbanded to fill the empty infantry ranks across Eighth Army.

    Regards

    Frank
     
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  11. Wobbler

    Wobbler Well-Known Member

    Well, well, I would never have known about any such code, Owen, so kudos indeed to Geoff. Certainly very worthy and moving threads.
     

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