621st Field Squadron Royal Engineers 7th Armoured Div. Research.

Discussion in 'Royal Engineers' started by son of a rat, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. son of a rat

    son of a rat Senior Member

    Hi All I have been trying to find out about some of my Fathers Journey though Normandy summer 1944,
    There some places he would like to return to during our Pilgrimage in June.
    Father says as a Reconnaissance unit they worked independently from the unit sending messages via a despatch rider. One place he would like to visit is a small meadow were they found several dead Germans placed in a ditch four high he thinks there could have been getting on for 100, Another spot they were getting ready to bed down for the night with a few Tanks and Infantry when 3 Focker Wolf’s flew over hedge hopping one which dropped his bombs missing them and not being able to pull up in time and blew himself up.
    Father was with 2nd Troop 621st Field Squadron Royal Engineers 7th Armoured Division.
    I have looked at books like A Short History 7th Armoured Div June 1943 to July 1945.
    Talked with Desert Rat Association who put me in touch with there historian a very helpful man who put be in touch with Gentleman who for personal reasons has spent many hours and expense researching the 621, But unfortunately can not help
    Reasons
    1) Files War Diaries are lost - may be due to the fluidity of the conflict at the time or may be destroyed during fighting -Who Knows.
    2) Or the said files have been wrongly referenced-so we never found.
    But go’s on to say may be the 7AD or Chief Royal Engineer files may shed light at a higher level.
    I just don’t know what to try next Any Help or ideas would be greatfully appreciated.
    Andy and Frederick.
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    2) Or the said files have been wrongly referenced-so we never found.

    Joslen's Orders of Battle only has one '621' in its index, so WO 171/1663 might be worth a look: 621 Coy not Fd Sqn.

    WO 171/448 is the 7 Armd Div CRE file for 1944.

    Good luck!
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Joslen's Orders of Battle only has one '621' in its index, so WO 171/1663 might be worth a look: 621 Coy not Fd Sqn.

    WO 171/448 is the 7 Armd Div CRE file for 1944.

    Good luck!

    99.9% sure you are correct, as you know many of the files are poorly identified and this wouldn't be the first Squadron file listed as a Company. There is a 621 Sqn file for 1945 and 1946.
     
  4. son of a rat

    son of a rat Senior Member

    Some of the war diaries have eventually been found and I had the answer all the time. When they ended up as occupation service in Berlin they were 210 Field Squadron which was written in my father’s Soldier’s Release Book, but the file might have been corrected to the 621.
     
  5. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    Can help post VE Day confirming two different units

    621 Field Squadron 7th Armoured Division attached 131st Infantry Brigade Group to 28 May 45
    Hanerau-Hademarschen north-west of Itzehoe
    13 May 45 – Albersdorf north-west of Itzehoe
    28 May 45 – Hohenaspe north-east of Itzehoe
    25 Jun 45 – Rethen south-east of Hannover – Berlin Troops concentration area
    4 Jul 45 – British Troops Berlin
    1 Nov 45 – returns
    22 Nov 45 – Itzehoe
    7 Mar 46 – suspended animation order issued

    5 Apr 46 – 210 Field Company from 30th Corps District Troops to 7th Armoured Division redesignated 210 Field Squadron
    21 Jun 46 – 1 Engineer Training Establishment Hameln
    3 Jan 47 – redesignated 629 Field Squadron
    18 Jul 47 – Hobart Barracks Detmold
    1 Nov 47 – redesignated 29 Field Squadron
    1 Dec 47 – disbanded

    Hope this helps
    https://britisharmyingermany.com/royal-engineers (under construction)
     

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