5th RTR Normandy......did the battalion utilise carriers ?

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  1. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    ok folks, a quick question. I am hopefully bringing my carrier to Normandy this year on the XXX corps event around The area of Tilly, and Arromanches etc etc. all my knowledge is connected to 5th div and 2RSF, I know little to nothing about the Normandy campaign.


    The people I am going with are wishing to portray units from 7th armoured. A mate of mine has a dingo marked up in 5th RTR with the stags head and "52" on the unit markings....... I started to copy but suddenly thought, "did this unit even deploy carriers ?" I know they had dingo's but is there any evidence about use of carriers ?

    I have put down my paint brush until I know..... I have found images of a carrier service book with notations relating to 5 RTR but I have seen no images of actual carriers.

    Anyone able to help ? As you can see I started painting the carrier from desert scheme to Normandy.

    Got as far as HQ company diamond and the red squares :D
     

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  3. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    Pants... Ok so I best flash over the diamond, and replace the 52 with a 50 ?
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    There's plenty of choice though. If you want to stick with the stag, you could go for 1 Rifle Brigade. Otherwise, 1/5, 1/6 and 1/7 Queens were in 7 Armd Div's 131 Inf Bde.
     
  5. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    cheers, I will have a look see.
     
  6. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    So to be 1 rifles I would need 54, or would it be 54 and a stag's heed ?

    Bloomin confusing is 7th armoured Div.
     
  7. idler

    idler GeneralList

    54 and stag's head from memory. You need to watch the rat as well as the NWE rat was a bit different to the NA one.

    And if you've got a 0.5" Browning lying around, you can justifiably bolt that on!
     
  8. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    As an aside, presuming you mean Tilly sur Seulles and not one of the other Tilly's, 7th Armoured fought in that area when they pushed down the Bayeux to Tilly road just after D-Day although they didn't make it into Tilly itself. They then moved further west and the rest, as they say, is history.

    I would be grateful if you could post some details of the XXX Corps event or point me in the right direction on the web. Although I can't be there this year, it would be good to see 'XXX Corps' in that area again.....especially 8th Armoured Brigade.......but then I'm biased.
     
  9. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    http://www.historicaltours.eu/2016/index.html

    We will be based in Tilly Sur Seulles

    We did Market garden in 2014... As France does not normally allow tracked military vehicles on its roads, it was a must I attended this event as it will no doubt be a one off....(probably not though)
     
  10. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Richard

    Thanks for the reply. Looks interesting.

    Creully is a nice location and so is Tilly. Audrieu is notorious because of the (1944) massacre at the Chateau de Audrieu....and it's also near Point 103. Nice 'run' from Audrieu down to Tilly past 103, also not very far to Cristot. Good 'run' also on to St Pierre, Fontenay Le Pesnel, Tessel Wood and Rauray.......gosh, I could go on for ages.

    Please say 'hello' to the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry and you must visit the Tilly Museum: excellent display. Several memorials also in the Museum gardens including the one to my fathers Regiment, the 24th Lancers.........

    Wish I could change my plans but family Wedding precludes!
     
  11. Rob Callaghan

    Rob Callaghan New Member

    SDP - I've got Sherwood Rangers markings for my Dingo too! I'd show you if I knew how to post photos on this bloody thing...

    I'll be there with Richard and his carrier - although I'll likely be in 7th AD markings

    Cheers
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Nah.....you should both go as 8th Armoured Brigade.....4/7RDG, 24L, SRY, EY......but ideally 24L ;-). Desert Fox and 995 markings.

    Reason?...Tilly and the surrounding area means 8AB. 7AD were more down towards Caumont.

    Where is the venue in Tilly? Not that it's a very large place anyway. I'm guessing on the playing field?
     
  13. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Just checked - Stags's Head over 54.

    Here are a couple of screen grabs of marking styles. 1 RB carriers had these on the mudguards. Their I Coy was usually grouped with 5 R Tks; marking-wise that would probably have been D Coy if they followed seniority by letter (A-B-C-I). I'm not 100% certain if I Coy had their Scout Platoon (carriers) available at the time. A Coy didn't have theirs, they only had their two mortar carriers plus, probably, the two with Coy HQ and perhaps some MMG carriers from B Coy (Support) when they got caught at Villers-Bocage. (I'm a bit rusty...)

    NWE AoS.jpg
    NWE Rat.jpg
     
  14. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    Excellent stuff, thanks

    So, 54 with stags head, the red rodent on white circle on red square... And if I turn my yellow diamond to a green one it should be passable ?
     

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