5th Battalion Coldstream Guards

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  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    More splendid stuff Diane.
    Some of those citations send a shiver up the spine.

    ~A
     
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Thanks guys for the comments. I can't say it was a pleasure to type some of those citations up, but it certainly was an honour reading them.

    If anyone has comments, background, or further links/information on actions or individuals, could they please either quote the citation or give the post #no. when doing so. You may have noticed that they are not in strict alphabetical or date order, so difficult to check back through. Anyone interested in a specific date, will have to check all of the citations, I'm afraid.

    Also, although I am only too happy to look up what few sources I have, I don't have much. So, if anyone else out there has more knowledge of Coldstream Guards, please post away.

    Underneath are casualties for 5bn CG found courtesy of Geoff's search engine [Thanks again Geoff :)]. Some entries on the cwgc Roll of Honour will not have been identified by their Battalion, so these lists may not be 100% complete.

    Links are given to TNA documents online where images of original citations are available for a fee - currently £3.50.
    D
     
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    001 ALLISON H 2653669 5TH BN 03/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    002 ANDERSON RG 2655912 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    003 ANDERSON RW 2661177 5TH BN 31/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    004 ANDERSON W 2661589 5TH BN 10/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    005 ANDREWS WG 2662705 5TH BN 21/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Presumed DOW
    006 ARGYLE SE 295080 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    007 ARNOLD AE 2659783 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    008 ASCOUGH LC 664660 5TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    009 ASHTON A 2659919 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    010 BACKHOUSE K 14566016 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    011 BAKER TG 2664831 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    012 BARKER S 2657441 5TH BN 04/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    013 BARRETT A 2665920 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    014 BATES SA 2666664 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    015 BAYLISS C 2658506 5TH BN 07/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Presumed KIA (at sea)
    016 BECK D 2667006 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    017 BEDFORD H 2666967 5TH BN 26/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    018 BIRCH TLG 14498250 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    019 BOWDITCH GH 2666205 5TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    020 BOWSER HCH 278586 5TH BN 20/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    021 BOYCE N 5511006 5TH BN 20/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    022 BOYLE DL 307874 5TH BN 14/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    023 BOYNTON R 2654002 5TH BN 01/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    024 BRAZIER L 2663250 5TH BN 28/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    025 BRETHERICK RH 2659069 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    026 BREWER CR 2661276 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    027 BREWIS AH 2666632 5TH BN 07/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    028 BROWN GM 14681109 5TH BN 22/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    029 BUCKINGHAM T 4698303 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    030 BUCKLEY S 2666373 5TH BN 20/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    031 BULL CV 2663511 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    032 BURKINSHAW CL 2656687 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    001 BURNS R 2662886 14/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Died (Natural causes)
    033 BURROWS C 2663495 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    034 BURTON W 14686885 5TH BN 23/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    035 CAPRON RE 2666676 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    036 CARPENTER TJ 2663707 5TH BN 23/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    037 CARR AJRW 2659126 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    001 CAVENDISHWJR 90720 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA [See also Hartington, The Marquess of]
    038 CHALK WHA 2662982 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    039 CHAPMAN R 2665349 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    040 CHILDS EE 2665807 5TH BN 06/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    041 CLAYTON CE 2656083 5TH BN 19/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    042 CLIFTON N 2663030 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    043 CLITHEROE W 3861848 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    044 CLOUGH G 2662985 5TH BN 12/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    045 COBBY GR 2664221 5TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    046 COLE SG 2655227 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    001 COLES JNM 262108 06/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    047 COOPER HW 2659235 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    048 COOPER CH 2659037 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    049 CORKE SH 2662214 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    050 CRANE RS 2658831 5TH BN 23/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    051 CROCKFORD ES 2661909 5TH BN 07/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    052 CROOM JE 2665825 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    053 CROWN GF 14655719 5TH BN 25/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW

    054 DALE A 2659746 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    055 DANAHER AT 2655107 5TH BN 12/06/1943 COLDSTREAM GUARDS -
    056 DAVIES W 2667117 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    057 DAWSON G 2664342 5TH BN 25/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    058 DEAN T 2665611 5TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    059 DENNIS BB 2655379 5TH BN 11/11/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    060 DIGGINES EA 2659276 5TH BN 04/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    061 DIXON JWM 2666633 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    062 DOLLING KH 2664176 5TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    063 DOWLE RE 5735558 5TH BN 31/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    064 DOWNS DA 2658205 5TH BN 03/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    065 DYER H 5735196 5TH BN 24/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
     
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    066 EDWARDS FA 2662542 5TH BN 03/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    067 ELLISON D 2658474 5TH BN 28/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    068 ELMS WL 2658465 5TH BN 25/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    069 EYDEN SH 2660671 5TH BN 12/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    070 FALLER GB 278596 5TH BN 12/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    071 FANNING PL 186900 5TH BN 04/11/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    072 FARR J 6202354 5TH BN 22/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    073 FARRAR F 2661746 5TH BN 18/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    074 FARROW A 3525074 5TH BN 05/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    075 FELTON HE 2660489 5TH BN 06/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    076 FLETCHER S 2663876 5TH BN 19/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    077 FLETCHER DH 320921 5TH BN 16/11/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Presumed DOW
    078 FLETCHER GH 2658332 5TH BN 05/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    079 FOY P 2663032 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    080 FREEMAN DN 2659120 5TH BN 05/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    081 GILLETT EM 2663294 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    082 GOFF SL 2660912 5TH BN 01/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    083 GOLDSWORTHY L 2663719 5TH BN 24/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    084 GOODING RP 2666376 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    085 GOUGH T 2660375 5TH BN 25/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    086 GRAINGER R 2656148 5TH BN 20/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    087 GRAINGER J 2663718 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    088 GRANT D 2658534 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    089 GREEN JA 2662871 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    090 GRIFFITHS TW 2654411 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    091 HACKING JA 3854048 5TH BN 28/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    092 HALLIWELL F2 660399 5TH BN 15/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    093 HARRIS W 2663248 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    003 HARTINGTON WJR 90720 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA [See also Cavendish, family name; The Marquess of Hartington]
    094 HARRISON GL 2665507 5TH BN 24/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    095 HELLIAR LRH 14420034 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    096 HINEERJ 2657604 5TH BN 29/04/1943 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    097 HINKS S 11053183 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    098 HODGE FI 2661325 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    099 HODGSON GE 2659969 5TH BN 27/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    100 HOWARD MPG 72092 5TH BN 02/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    101 HOWARD M 2663359 5TH BN 23/06/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    102 HOWELL RB 2666249 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    103 HOYLE J 2658868 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    104 HUNT HR 2663973 5TH BN 29/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    105 HUNTER R 2658487 5TH BN 12/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW

    106 IMESON W 2664535 5TH BN 21/06/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    001 IRGENS KH 314029 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    107 JACKLIN J 2656377 5TH BN 06/12/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    108 JACKSON E 2663466 5TH BN 24/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    109 JELFS BF 2662553 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    110 JENNINGS J 2662474 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    001 JOHNSON T2661135 6TH BN 29/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    111 KEATING DG 2666095 5TH BN 08/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    112 KEITH TW 2659930 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    113 KELLY HR 2663570 5TH BN 04/10/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Died (Natural causes)
    114 KINGSTON GH 2659176 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    115 KNELLER WH 2666310 5TH BN 08/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    116 LEAN D 2666956 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    117 LEE JA 2662133 5TH BN 06/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    118 LEIGHTON SJ 2662502 5TH BN 18/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    119 2663202 John Henry LEVELL, 2 & 5 Coldstream Guards: 16/8/1944 - DOW
    120 LEWIS JH 2659562 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    121 LIAS H 2660931 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    122 LIDDELL IO 156048 5TH BN 21/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    123 LISTER RW 2660840 5TH BN 24/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    124 LONG WFD 50864 5TH BN 23/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    125 LORING CK 2657969 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    126 LOWCOCK FN 2662586 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
     
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    127 MAGUIRE FJ 2667122 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    128 MAHER J 2664041 5TH BN 28/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    129 MANSELL J 2664845 5TH BN 18/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    130 MARTIN FJH 2663595 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    131 METCALFE JH 2667091 5TH BN 27/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Died (Natural causes)
    132 MIDDLETON R 2658429 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    133 MILBURN DC 2661545 5TH BN 08/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    134 MILLER EH 2663444 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    135 MILLER W 2657598 5TH BN 19/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    136 MILLMAN OG 2664304 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    137 MITCHELL TA 302248 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    138 MOORE WEJ 2659278 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    139 MORGAN C 2665609 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    140 MORLEY JP 2664222 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    141 MORRIS A 2662244 5TH BN 03/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    142 MUMBERSON A 2654028 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    143 NOLDER ETA 2666986 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    144 O'BRIEN JP 2664486 5TH BN 05/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    145 OLIVER T 2656246 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    146 OLNEY JF 2661649 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    147 PAGE L 2667086 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    148 PALMER HA 5104312 5TH BN 14/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    149 PARFITT CR 5683025 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    150 PICKERSGILL A 2656745 5TH BN 24/03/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    151 PLOWS H 2659162 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    152 POOLE A 2666656 5TH BN 26/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    153 POPLE FW 2654924 5TH BN 14/03/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    154 POTTS T 2656350 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    155 PUGH PC 2666371 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    156 PUTT JF 2655599 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    157 QUINN S 2661136 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    158 RAWSON GA 2654130 5TH BN 22/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    159 READHEAD AE 2661474 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    160 READING WH 2666574 5TH BN 23/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA (Battle accident)
    161 REASON SGE 2653255 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    162 ROBINSON RA 738748 5TH BN 28/06/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    163 ROBINSON F 2661467 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    164 ROBINSON WE 2666445 5TH BN 03/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    165 ROBINSON J 14499696 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    166 ROBINSON GW 2667271 5TH BN 21/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    167 ROLLINSON TV 2653845 5TH BN 14/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    168 ROLPH EL 2665412 5TH BN 20/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    169 RUSSELL S 2662092 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS -DPW
    170 RUTHERFORD TE 2659863 5TH BN 05/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    171 SAINTER J 2 666000 5TH BN 05/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS -KIA
    172 SALMON W 2661391 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    173 SCHOFIELD RW 2666266 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    174 SCHORAH JR 2666704 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    175 SHAW A 2659473 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    176 SHAW CH 2661268 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    177 SHERWOOD D 2656996 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    178 SHORTALL PRE 2667381 5TH BN 20/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    179 SKIDMORE RF 14714212 5TH BN 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    180 SLATE JAT 2665958 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    181 SMITH W 2666357 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    182 SMITH JJ 2664242 5TH BN 09/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    183 SMITH L 2653958 5TH BN 28/06/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    184 SMITH T 2659937 5TH BN 03/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    185 2660142 Lance-Corporal George SMITH, 5 Coldstream Guards: 16/02/1945 - KIA
    186 STEBBINGS HW 2662018 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    187 STEELE WLH 2664516 5TH BN 05/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    188 STOCKALL AE 2661256 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    189 STOKER E 26674185TH BN 09/06/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Died (Battle accident)
    190 STORROW H 2660907 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    191 STROUD VJ 2661936 5TH BN 29/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    192 SURR JM 2660384 5TH BN 06/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    193 SYMONS TR 314068 5TH BN 20/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Presumed KIA
     
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    194 TAYLOR CAJ 2660899 5TH BN 06/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    195 TAYLOR AJ 2661445 5TH BN 25/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    196 TAYLOR F 2661127 5TH BN 01/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    197 THACKER GL 2660094 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    198 THORPE E 2653581 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    199 THORPE D 2658395 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    200 TODD GD 905855 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    001 TROSH NV 14499212 08/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    201 TRUNDLE GHJ 6015083 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    202 TULLOCH EB 2656924 5TH BN 31/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    203 TURNER WL 2666157 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    204 TURRELL R 2664340 5TH BN 19/11/1942 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    205 TYERS CF 2659947 5TH BN 03/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    206 VAUGHAN W 2660707 5TH BN 07/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW

    207 WAITT ST 2666592 5TH BN 04/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    208 WALKEY FJ 2664751 5TH BN 11/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    209 WALSHAW F 2663654 5TH BN 21/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    210 WALTON J 2663252 5TH BN 20/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - Died (Battle accident)
    211 WARBURTON J 2665758 5TH BN 11/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    212 WARD R 2658027 5TH BN 08/10/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    213 WASS J 2666652 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    214 WATSON JV 2660577 5TH BN 19/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    215 WEDDERBURN J 2658857 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    216 WEEKS JO 2666839 5TH BN 16/02/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    217 WELSBY W 2663371 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    218 WHALEY JM 2662181 5TH BN 12/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    219 WIGGLESWORTH R 2664575 5TH BN 05/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    220 WILKINS BG 2666750 5TH BN 19/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    221 WILSON G 2658822 5TH BN 29/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    222 WOOD PH 2666575 5TH BN 24/04/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    223 WOOLLEY E 2658689 5TH BN 01/08/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    224 WRIGHT HG 2661925 5TH BN 09/03/1945 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA
    225 WYNN TW 2660995 5TH BN 31/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - KIA

    226 YATES G 2660911 5TH BN 18/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
    227 YATES F 2662863 5TH BN 22/07/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS - DOW
     
  7. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    The above Roll of Honour for the 5th Bn Coldstream Guards was created by Geoff's search engine. Additional information, eg Killed in Action, Died of Wounds, was extracted from the publication, A Distant Drum by Captain J. Pereira, published in 1948.

    Please note that some have been added to the results of the search as they had no battalion allocated in the cwgc record. The no.s are therefore highlighted in red, as they do not follow consecutive order. Click on any number to retrieve the cwgc RoH record.
     
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  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Diane,

    I finally got around to reading it in full. It's interesting to read the different choice of words (Post 8) in the statements from an Officer, WO and a OR. I wonder if this is in part due to the different levels of education the men received which reflects their rank?

    I wonder who or what unit the other soldier was from in post 35?

    Many thanks again for the hard work-It made for great reading!

    Regards
    Andy
     
  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Cheers Diane,

    I finally got around to reading it in full. It's interesting to read the different choice of words (Post 8) in the statements from an Officer, WO and a OR. I wonder if this is in part due to the different levels of education the men received which reflects their rank?

    I wonder who or what unit the other soldier was from in post 35?

    Many thanks again for the hard work-It made for great reading!

    Regards
    Andy

    Thanks Andy.
    Take your point about the statements backing the V.C. Thought it interesting to see these next to the citation too.

    Ref #35, Yes wondered that myself. I checked my only source and just edited in at the end of the post, the only mention of that date in the book. No other Units identified or even mentioned; but interesting to note 5 casualties to the Bn resulting from minefields.


    Thanks to everyone for the reps.
     
  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    FYO Hutty,
    I got your PM but couldn't reply until today; so be sure to check your messages and let me know if any of it was of use.

    D
     
  11. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi D

    Can you PM I have some headstones for you ..

    Cheers
    TomTAS
     
  12. ollick

    ollick Junior Member

    Thank you for posting this D,

    I am new to this site as I am trying to looking into my grandfather's service with the Coldstream Guards.

    WO2 Reason who died on 14 Sept 44 (page 2) was my grandfather's Squad Instructor during depot training Mar 39, then Sge S.G Reason.

    It is somewhat saddening to now know that one of those many faces I've looked at over these years didn't make it through to VE day.
     
  13. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Ollick
    Welcome to the forum.
    Hope we can help here with some of your research.

    Had the same reaction when I checked the names of my father's IG squad - 2 didn't survive, 2 got medals for gallantry... have you checked out the other names from the photo against cwgc and TNA medal recommendations?

    Got to ask - have you applied for your grandfather's records?

    D
     
  14. ollick

    ollick Junior Member

    This is literally my first hour into the research, I have gone through the Roles of Honour you've posted on here for the CG.

    I am pretty sure, almost positive, that he was in the Guards Armoured Division so will look there also.

    It looks like I'll have to get my dad to apply for his records.

    Having checked the CWGC it would seem that two of his squad died at Dunkirk.

    Chris
     
  15. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Chris,
    If you can't post up the squad photo itself, why not list the names here. You never know who might come across it ...

    Once you have the records and a better idea of dates, it might be worthwhile then getting the war diaries.

    If you haven't got regimental histories, check with HQ at Wellington Barracks about publications that they might have for sale - to see if there is anything relevant to your grandfather's service.

    Regards,
    D
     
  16. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    ... I was trawling through this sites search engine looking for all things coldstreamery when I came across this thread. Now there's a bit of a mystery here and i think its quite an interesting one that maybe some of you folks out there can help solve.

    If you look at post 3 for the 20th of June you'll note that Major Stewart-Brown is the 2 i/c of the HQ coy for the 5th Bn, but not for the next post. Now this, according to the CWGC was because the major was killed on the 28th of July.

    Now i'm going to have to go to TNA (again!!!) to find out how he was killed, and the reason is that this is evidently former Lt-Col stewart brown, former commander of the 2nd coldstream guards, who was replaced by Lt Col H.R.Norman late in 1943. Now I always presumed Stewart Brown left because he was needed elsewhere but it now looks like he was demoted, or at the very least that this was a shift sideways/downwards.

    I was wondering if anyone had encountered demotions before in the literature, and whether or not this was what it looks like, or if there is something else going on. The only thing I can think of that would warrant such a fate would be the incident on the 26th of April in Dj Kournine area when the 2nd Bn suffered heavy casualties after getting lost.

    If anyone can reccomend some books on the 5th Bn coldstream in the meantime however I'd really like to get some reading done around Maj stewart brown's transfer.
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Without wishing to butt in but is there a possiblility one source has used a substantive rank and another used temporary or acting rank for him?

    Andy
     
  18. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    Without wishing to butt in but is there a possiblility one source has used a substantive rank and another used temporary or acting rank for him?

    Andy

    This would make sense, and is something along the lines of what I've been thinking about and which is why I asked if anyone had encountered something like this before, I'm pretty sure he did keep his rank however I have a diary which explictly mentions the word "sacked" and suggests a bit of a scandal but doesn't go any further.

    I'm still going through this diary, it's a few 100 pages long, but this is the line I found after posting this.

    "... [the colonel] has been sacked - he is going back to england to become second in command of the 5th bn, which we think is scandelous"

    second in command is highlighted and underlined to outline the point.

    The fact remains he's gone from the OC to 2 I/C; hence why i'm asking if anyone has any accounts they can reccomend from the 5th Bn side of things, or at least how he was killed.
     
  19. idler

    idler GeneralList

    If you look at post 3 for the 20th of June you'll note that Major Stewart-Brown is the 2 i/c of the HQ coy for the 5th Bn, but not for the next post. Now this, according to the CWGC was because the major was killed on the 28th of July.

    The data like it's lifted from Pereira A Distant Drum. Incidentally, Stewart-Brown is the 2i/c of the Battalion, not 2i/c of HQ Coy. The roll of honour says he died of wounds on 28/07/44.

    Regarding demotions, the CO of 2 ESSEX was spirited away from the Bn after their bad day at Essex Wood in June 44. I haven't got to the bottom of the story yet but he reappears in the history much later as a Major (presumably having reverted to his substantive rank rather than a demotion). There is no suggestion that he's not brave: he is briefly mentioned elsewhere as recovering a wounded man from Essex Wood. The implication is that the situation got a grip of him rather than the other way round.

    Also read the other day of a Lt-Col whose Bn was broken up for reinforcements in Normandy. He offered to surrender a pip and serve as a Company Commander, which he did until he was killed.
     
  20. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    The data like it's lifted from Pereira A Distant Drum. Incidentally, Stewart-Brown is the 2i/c of the Battalion, not 2i/c of HQ Coy. The roll of honour says he died of wounds on 28/07/44.

    Regarding demotions, the CO of 2 ESSEX was spirited away from the Bn after their bad day at Essex Wood in June 44. I haven't got to the bottom of the story yet but he reappears in the history much later as a Major (presumably having reverted to his substantive rank rather than a demotion). There is no suggestion that he's not brave: he is briefly mentioned elsewhere as recovering a wounded man from Essex Wood. The implication is that the situation got a grip of him rather than the other way round.

    Also read the other day of a Lt-Col whose Bn was broken up for reinforcements in Normandy. He offered to surrender a pip and serve as a Company Commander, which he did until he was killed.

    I don't have a distant drum, so can't say for sure if he's mentioned in it. I take it that's the book for the 5th coldstream bn? I got the day of death from the GWGC, as you can see from my previous post I understand that he was 2 iC of the Bn, it was just an error on my part.

    It sounds like a simmilar thing with the Essex CO; which makes me think it is from the afforementioned disaster; which is interesting.

    There's nothing in your old coldstream book about this is there? Lt Col Stewart Brown won the DSO and longstop and was undoubtedly a couragous man, but i'd really like to know what happened.
     

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