Davenport R.U.F.C., Stockport

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  1. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    The club's name changed to Stockport R.U.F.C. in 1992; the ground is called the Memorial Ground.

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  2. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Hello BereniceUK,

    Hope you don't mind but, having found nothing else about this memorial online, I have undertaken some research on the Roll of Honour using Geoff's Search Engine. Reasons?

    1. My wife used to live in Bramhall, which you will see is well represented in the RoH;
    2. One of my two best friends from my rugby playing days, John, hailed from Bramhall and supported Stockport County FC - unfortunately for him, he died circa 3 years ago; and
    3. John and I played up to retirement from the game for a rugby club which is in the same league as Stockport RUFC, albeit at the right end of the table. :)

    So, here you go and note, TG Hughes was awarded a DSC and WF Rains an Air Medal (U.S.A.):

    BLEAKLEY, R – Three possible fits, two of which are officers. None with obvious connections to Stockport.

    BURTINSHAW, ROBERT JAMES GLOVER
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Service No: 89395
    Date of Death: 28/03/1942
    Age: 25
    Regiment/Service: Cheshire Regiment, 6th Bn. and No. 5 Commando
    Grave Reference: 1. D. 6.
    Cemetery: ESCOUBLAC-LA-BAULE WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Sydney James Glover Burtinshaw and Lilian Beatrice Burtinshaw, of Bramhall, Cheshire. Lawyer.

    COCKER, LEONARD
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant
    Service No: 61973
    Date of Death: 28/10/1942
    Age: 25
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 92 Sqdn.
    Panel Reference: Column 247.
    Memorial: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Tom Hubert and Annie Cocker, of Bramhall, Cheshire.

    ELLIOTT, JOHN BRADDOCK
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Service No: 130907
    Date of Death: 24/04/1943
    Age: 30
    Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps
    Grave Reference: 9. C. 16.
    Cemetery: KHARTOUM WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Frank and Annie Elliott, Cheadle Hulme, Cheadle, Cheshire. LL.B. (Manchester).

    HARRISON, DG – Two possible fits, one of which is an officer. None with obvious connections to Stockport.

    HARRISON, HM – Two possible fits, none of which are officers. None with obvious connections to Stockport.

    HILL, BRIAN
    Rank: Flying Officer
    Trade: Pilot
    Service No: 150487
    Date of Death: 21/02/1944
    Age: 21
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Grave Reference: Block 10. Grave 16025.
    Cemetery: READING (HENLEY ROAD) CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Gregory G. Hill and Dina Christina Hill, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.

    HUGHES, THOMAS GRAHAM
    Rank: Sub-Lieutenant
    Date of Death: 16/03/1944
    Age: 22
    Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, H.M.M.T.B. 417.
    Awards: D S C
    Panel Reference: 79, 3.
    Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Thomas Francis, and Elizabeth Blair Hughes, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.

    LEES, WILLIAM EDWARD SUTTON
    Rank: Captain
    Service No: 89463
    Date of Death: 12/04/1943
    Age: 26
    Regiment/Service: Cheshire Regiment, 6th Bn.
    Grave Reference: 10. C. 8.
    Cemetery: TRIPOLI WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of William and Kathleen A. Lees, of Bramhall, Cheshire.

    PRATT, N – No fit.

    PRITCHARD, DAVID ROE
    Rank: Sergeant
    Service No: 1060898
    Date of Death: 08/11/1941
    Age: 18
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 102 Sqdn.
    Panel Reference: Panel 50.
    Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Wilfred and Dorothy Roe Pritchard, of Gatley, Cheshire.

    RAINS, WILLIAM FRANK
    Rank: Pilot Officer
    Service No: 110557
    Date of Death: 18/12/1942
    Age: 20
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 4 Photographic Reconnaissance Unit.
    Panel Reference: Panel 3, Column 1.
    Memorial: MALTA MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Air Medal (U.S.A.). Son of T. Wilfred and Ivy R. Rains, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.

    RAMSDEN, PETER THOMAS
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Service No: 299743
    Date of Death: 06/08/1944
    Age: 20
    Regiment/Service: Royal Armoured Corps, 2nd Lothians and Border Horse,
    Grave Reference: I. D. 13.
    Cemetery: AREZZO WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of William Guy and Ada Ramsden, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.

    NB. Some matches depended on geographical information, but I am fairly confident that they are accurate.

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  3. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    Thanks very much, Steve. I'd love to know the reason for the award of the Air Medal (U.S.A.) to W.F. Rains.

    Robert Burtinshaw, Leonard Cocker, John Elliott and William Lees are all also named on Bramhall's war memorial.
     
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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    RAINS, WILLIAM FRANK
    Rank: Pilot Officer
    Service No: 110557
    Date of Death: 18/12/1942
    Age: 20
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 4 Photographic Reconnaissance Unit.
    Panel Reference: Panel 3, Column 1.
    Memorial: MALTA MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Air Medal (U.S.A.). Son of T. Wilfred and Ivy R. Rains, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.
    Photo courtesy Mr Jinks ww2talk
     

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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    PRITCHARD, DAVID ROE
    Rank: Sergeant
    Service No: 1060898
    Date of Death: 08/11/1941
    Age: 18
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 102 Sqdn.
    Panel Reference: Panel 50.
    Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Wilfred and Dorothy Roe Pritchard, of Gatley, Cheshire.
     

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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    HILL, BRIAN
    Rank: Flying Officer
    Trade: Pilot
    Service No: 150487
    Date of Death: 21/02/1944
    Age: 21
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Grave Reference: Block 10. Grave 16025.
    Cemetery: READING (HENLEY ROAD) CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Gregory G. Hill and Dina Christina Hill, of Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.
     

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  7. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    28 October 1942

    92 Squadron
    Spitfire Vb EP613 'S'

    Shot down by Bf 109 (Oblt. Sommer. II./JG 27) near LG.21 (Qotafiya III, Egypt)

    F/L. L. Crocker +
     
  8. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    7-8 November 1941

    102 Squadron
    Whitley V Z6820
    Op. Berlin

    Took off from Topcliffe at 2203 hours. Last heard on w/t at 0743 hours calling for help. Presumed lost over the sea.

    Crew.

    P/O. B B P. Roy +
    Sgt. D R. Pritchard +
    Sgt. K. Harwood-Smith +
    Sgt. S. Thomson +
    Sgt. P H. Stanton +

    Source - RAF Bomber Command Losses Vol.2 - W R. Chorley
     
  9. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    No actual detail on the why, but we know the when. It looks like a very impressive list of personnel who received the award at the same time.
     

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  10. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    For the personnel listed that a match cannot be made for, would a good close-up of their individual photographs help by narrowing the search down to which service, or their unit by the insignia??
     
  11. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

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    That would be very useful.

    We have 13 on the RoH, with only 9 identified. With 11 photographs in close-up we should be able to make progress with finding at least some of the unidentified 4.

    Are you/anyone able to assist?

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  12. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    From 'The History Of the Cheshire Regiment In The Second World War' (Crookenden)

    1. Lt. RJG Burtinshaw confirmed as photograph at message #1, centre row, right (as you view it).

    2. Capt. WES Lees confirmed as photograph at message #1, centre row, middle.

     
  13. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    I have undertaken a more in depth look for the 4 (four) fallen members of Stockport RUFC for which CWGC information was previously, either, missing or uncertain.

    I found DG Harrison via a search of online War Memorial information for Cheadle Hulme, extended this to Bramhall (a blank) and then wider, finding R Bleakley on the Marple War Memorial.

    Further research was required for DG Harrison as the only apparent officer fit was addressed with parents in ‘Lima, Peru’. Another source was found for Haileybury School which confirmed we had the correct DG Harrison as his brother, HM Harrison (one of our other ‘missing’/uncertain’ men), is also mentioned in his bio.

    I could find CWGC certificates for both R Bleakley and DG Harrison, but not HM Harrison under any general search criteria… including name, date, parents, address, etc.

    Following a hunch, I was then able to confirm that DG and HM Harrison went to the same school and located the pertinent information for the latter; he served with the Royal Canadian Artillery.

    I found a CWGC certificate for HM Harrison by a specific search under ‘Regiment/Corps’ and ‘Royal Canadian Artillery’… bizarrely, this information does not appear on any general search under ‘HM Harrison’.

    Information for N Pratt is currently still illusive, but all other pertinent information is analysed hereunder.

    BLEAKLEY, Rhttp://www.carlscam.com/marple/warmem.htm

    BLEAKLEY, RONALD MILES
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Service No: 225017
    Date of Death: 17/06/1943
    Age: 27
    Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers, 994 Docks Operating Coy.
    Panel Reference: Panel 4. Column 3.
    Memorial: BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Miles Lonsdale Bleakley and Lily Elizabeth Bleakley, of Llandudno, Caernarvonshire.

    HARRISON, DGhttp://www.carlscam.com/cheadlehulme/warmem.htm and https://www.haileybury.com/honour/ISC%201944.htm (see transcription immediately below).

    DENIS GOODWIN HARRISON
    Electrical Lieutenant H.M.S. Saker., Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
    who died on Monday 17 January 1944 . Age 26.
    Additional Information: Son of Ernest and Annie Gladys Harrison, of Lima, Peru. B.Sc. (Engr.).
    Cemetery: EVERETT (WOODLAWN) CEMETERY Massachusetts, United States of America
    Grave or Reference Panel Number: Lot 5199. Grave 333.
    Brother of H M Harrison Killed in Action 14 August 1944

    HMS Saker II was the name of the shore facilities in the USA & Canada for all the Fleet Air Arm's activities . Many pilots were sent there to train.

    HARRISON, DENNIS GOODWIN
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Date of Death: 16/01/1944
    Age: 26
    Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, H.M.S. Saker.
    Grave Reference: Lot 5199. Grave 333.
    Cemetery: EVERETT (WOODLAWN) CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Ernest and Annie Gladys Harrison, of Lima, Peru. B.Sc. (Engr.).

    HARRISON, HMhttps://www.haileybury.com/honour/ISC%201944.htm (see transcription immediately below).

    HEDLEY MAURICE HARRISON
    Captain Royal Canadian Artillery
    who died on Monday 14 August 1944 . Age 30.
    Additional Information: Son of Ernest Harrison and of Annie Gladys Harrison (nee Anyan), of Lima, Peru. B.Sc. (University of Toronto).
    Cemetery: BRETTEVILLE-SUR-LAIZE CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY Calvados, France
    Grave or Reference Panel Number: VIII. C. 3.
    Brother of D G Harrison Died on Active service 17 January 1944

    HARRISON, HEDLEY MAURICE
    Rank: Captain
    Date of Death: 14/08/1944
    Age: 30
    Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Artillery, 19 Field Regt.
    Grave Reference: VIII. C. 3.
    Cemetery: BRETTEVILLE-SUR-LAIZE CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information: Son of Ernest Harrison and of Annie Gladys Harrison (nee Anyan), of Lima, Peru. B.Sc. (University of Toronto).

    PRATT, N – Still no fit.
     
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  14. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Further information found for DR Pritchard: http://www.gatley.org.uk/gatley-forums/historical-gatley/war-memorial-men

     
  15. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    Wonderful! Thank you, everyone, for your contributions to identifying 10 of the 11.
     
  16. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Question for you BereniceUK...

    I have just worked out how to do an all encompassing search on the CWGC site, i.e. covering all services, countries, etc., but still no luck with tracing N Pratt. There is one that could possibly fit, but the address is Birmingham.

    Do you know if one of the eleven men in the photograph at message #1 is N Pratt and if so, are you able to get a better definition of his image?

    Best,

    Steve.
     
  17. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry but I can't help as I have no connection with the club and took the photos when I was in the area one day and knew that there was a memorial there. I'll try to contact the club secretary.
     

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