4th Reconnaissance Regiment war Diaries.

Discussion in 'Recce' started by Smudger Jnr, Oct 11, 2010.

  1. Judy Walker

    Judy Walker Junior Member

    Re Villa Paolozzi yes it is mentioned see extract in italics below.I will shortly post the other extracts I have together with some photos - some with identified colleagues- others unknown.There are over 100 letters from April 1944 as they left Egypt en route to Italy until father was demobbed in Feb 1946.I have taken out the personal and family detail and will post the rest which obviously does not give great detail about operations- censored at the time ! but does give a lot of detail about war time life in Italy and Greece
    The local people are now working as hard as they can go getting in the overripe crops. Until the Germans went, they didn't turn a hand to the fields as the Germans would only have pinched the stuff as fast as they gathered it. The swines have been carrying out atrocities in this area-yesterday we had a woman and her daughter in here and they told us that her husband had been murdered in their sight and the daughter’s baby had been snatched from her and bayoneted to death-that's the Boches for you. Thank God they have never set foot on our soil. The hatred of these Italians for them has to be seen to be believed, and I think lots of Germans are beginning to realise what will happen when all these people can get at their throats inside Germany and they are not finding it a pleasant prospect. Several days ago we set up shop on a big private estate-a most beautiful place-where the family a count, his wife and two children were still living. I sat out on the lawn with them, drinking their wine and listening to their stories of the German occupation and I found the most charming people who were genuinely pleased to see us and the back of the Germans and were as happy as sand boys to be able to talk and breathe freely once again. Next day we left and just afterwards the whole place was blown up by a mine that the thoughtful Germans had left behind with a delayed action. The whole family were killed except the count and I next saw the poor devil raking over the rubble of his once beautiful house looking for his family-half demented. That incident really touched me and together with the atrocities I spoke of I formed an opinion of the “master race” that I shan't easily forget.

    Today by chance I have also met up with the widow of K.C.P "Pat" Ive, 4 Recce, and then 17/21 Lancers who died in 2011. Unfortunately at present she cannot locate any memorabilia but some may emerge as she moves house shortly.
    I have also emailed Nick Preston and will be sending photos of his grandfather in Greece and Crete. My father served as his ADC and was present in Crete for the German surrender.
     
  2. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Judy.

    Many thanks. I have driven passed the villa and it seems to have been rebuilt after the war. I had not realised that the Count lost not of his family.

    Regards

    Frank
     
  3. Judy Walker

    Judy Walker Junior Member

    I have attached edited letters with photos covering the period from March 1944 en route to Italy until he was demobbed in Greece in Feb 1946.In the main my editing has removed the personal content of these letters.
    I have added in red the locations from the war diaries on the forum.
    If anyone can add any more detail then I would be delighted to hear.
    For a while my father was responsible for the War Diary and it is strange to see his handwriting on the internet!!
     

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  4. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Judy thanks for posting your fathers letters

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  5. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Thank you for posting your fathers letters Judy

    Lesley
     
  6. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Judy,

    I have just read the letters that you posted and really enjoyed the experience.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  7. r.m.scase

    r.m.scase New Member

    Hi,

    I think that my grandfather, Donald Scase, was in 4th recce, just waiting to get his service records back from the MoD. This is all very intersting reading as he never mentioned anything about his combat action with anyone.

    I have attached a picture of him but don't know where he was or whom he was with. He is the one sat in the chair.

    Rich
     

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  8. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Hi Rich welcome to the forum. Always great to have another Recce on board.

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  9. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Hi Rich

    Welcome. Me too :smile:


    Lesley
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hello and welcome to the forum - Just shout if you want a copy of the war diaries complete with all the appendices ;) Just click the red link below.


    Good luck
    Andy
     
  11. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

     
  12. r.m.scase

    r.m.scase New Member

    Thank you for all of the warm welcomes and offers of help.

    My Gran always said that he was in the 4th. However, I also have his insignia from the 15th/19th Hussars and the more I read the more it makes me think that he was probably in the 3rd. I do know that he spent quite a bit of time in North Africa though.
     
  13. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    3 Recce did not serve in Nth Africa. They were formed in April, 1941, mainly from the 8th Royal Northumberland Fusiliers. They fought in the invasion of Normandy and throughout the campaign in NW Europe.


    Cheers
    Paul
     
  14. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    RM,
    When the Reconnaissance Corp was incorporated into the RAC there was wholesale movements of men transferred to Tank Regiments and perhaps this is where your father picked up the Hussars Insignia.
    Before being demobbed in 1947 my father had three transfers.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

  16. BigRab

    BigRab New Member

    Hi Guys,
    I am researching the men killed during both wars from my village of Killearn near Glasgow. The first man killed in WW2 was a Sergeant Frederick Barclay of Reconnaissance Corp 4th Battalion, No.3316703 died on the 16th September 1941 aged 22. Can any of you help me with any information on him or his unit. What they were up to on the date of his death. He is buried in the old Kirk grave yard in Killearn
    Cheers
    Rab

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  17. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Thanks to Christopher Hine, a new member, for bringing my attention to files lost on the War Diaries posts.
    This occurred on the system change over.

    Hopefully January to June 1944 are again complete.

    Regards
    Tom
     

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