4/7th Royal Dragoon Guards 4th April 1944

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  1. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Looking for an incident that killed 5 members of this unit on this date who are listed on the Brookwood Memorial & have no known grave.

    Any info gratefully received.

    Chris
     
  2. piaf

    piaf Member

    Chris,
    Google 'Creully club' where you will find information about 4/7th Royal Dragoon Guards
    Regards Gill
     
  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

    There may have a grave then, as there were six drowned when six DD tanks sank whilst on Exercise Smash I near Poole:

    B Sqn
    Townson Cpl V N

    C Sqn
    Gould Lt C R
    Hartley Sgt V
    Park Cpl A J
    Kirby Tpr A
    Petty Tpr E G

    :poppy:
     
  4. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Thanks very much to you both for the info; Im looking at the possibility of graves for these men now that I know where they died.

    Lt C R Gould is the only one with a known grave

    Cheers

    Chris
     
  5. NikToo

    NikToo Junior Member

    The history of the 4/7th, "The First And The Last", describes the incident as follows:

    At the beginning of April we moved yet again, this time to the South Coast., where the Regiment was centred around New Milton, Hampshire. "B" and "C" Squadrons were already at Poole, where they were able to continue their DD training, and just before the move, we heard that they had taken part in an exercise which had ended disastrously. Rumour had free play for a while and produced some fantastic figures; the was that six tanks were sunk and six men drowned, which was bad enough. in all conscience. The Colonel himself was present, having elected to take part in the exercise in one of "C" Squadron's tank, with a learner-driver "up". To the great credit of the latter he brought his half waterlogged craft safely to land.

    All the casualties with the exception of Lt Gould are listed on the Brookwood Memorial, so chances are they were simply swept out to sea.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Sounds like they are still in the tank with only the Commander getting out of the turret.
     
  7. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Further re. "Exercise Smash" : BBC Four - Beach Live: Jurassic Coast Revealed, Series 1, Episode 2

    There is this: "There are over 300 shipwrecks in Lyme Bay alone, from old galleons to submarines. Dan dives 15 metres deep in the Channel to discover the story behind some of the more unusual vessels, a number of top secret WWII tanks that sank in a D-Day landings rehearsal known as Exercise Smash. Dan joins divers who are carrying out an underwater survey to map these tanks in time for the 75th anniversary and whilst down there, they could come across the conger eels and cuttlefish that now call these tanks home."

    Just about to be broadcast (Wednesday 18th July 2018 - 8pm - on BBC4)
     
  8. W4771

    W4771 Member

    78371D86-E48C-4EB4-B8D0-1FF084A7577C.jpeg I was walking the coast path to Swanage and noticed two pairs of metal frame towers facing the sea; one pair near Anvil Polint lighthouse. The towers appear to originally have had large red arrows pointing inland towards Swanage/Studland beach. I wondered if they had anything to do with the Exercise Smash bombing runs?
     
  9. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    BBC article (from 31st March 2019) Event marks 75 years since tanks sank

    Exhibition marks 75 years since Valentine tanks sank

    "Six weeks before D-Day, troops gathered in Studland to rehearse the Normandy landings operation of World War Two - including the testing of the amphibious Valentine tanks."
     
  10. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Memorial at Fort Henry, Studland, Dorset:
    Fort Henry 1.jpg Fort Henry 2.jpg
     
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  11. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Noticed your post #8 above, these are nautical mile marker pylons used by shipping off the Dorset coast.
    West pair at 50.590921, -1.983800
    East pair at 50.592834, -1.957815
    Durlston.jpg
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    I attended the inauguration ceremony for this Memorial and, if memory serves me correctly, it was unveiled by Mrs Park (widow of one of the casualties).
     
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  13. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

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    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

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