3rd Royal Tank Regiment War Diary

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  1. hardpanman

    hardpanman New Member

    I am looking for information concerning an incident that occurred in Levern, Germany, on 4 April, 1945. After reading PhilGraham's post titled 11th Armoured Division...from 17 December, 2012, and the excellent response it received, I surmised that the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment and perhaps the 4th King's Shropshire Light Infantry were involved. The war diary provided by dryan67 included page 130 that noted the tail end of the incident. I would like to read page 129 to see if more information is available concerning the British version of events. Also, page 102 of the 4th KSLI history mentioned a possible casualty that would account for the fourth fatality that occurred. I have the casualty reports for the RTR that account for three of the five fatalities. Page 101 should identify this commander. The German news articles about the incident are a little garbled in translation although I've gotten the gist of it.
    Any assistance is appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Dave
     
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  2. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Could you be a bit more specific about the 'incident'. Apart from 'B' Squadron 3RTR having a tough time taking Levern, there is nothing in the War Diary that stands out as an 'incident'.

    Note: I'm confused about your reference to page numbers in the War Diary. War Diaries don't have page numbers! It might help if you could also provide a link to the post you have referenced: there are dozens of threads about 11th Armoured Division.
     
  3. Owen

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  4. SDP

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    Thanks Owen. All now a bit clearer. Still intrigued about the 'incident' and that it appears to have been reported in the German press.
     
  5. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here is page 129 as requested:
     

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  6. hardpanman

    hardpanman New Member

    Thanks Dryan67, for page 129. Perhaps 'engagement' is a better word than 'incident'. The RTR apparently opened up on the town of Levern after being fired upon by some inexperienced German soldiers. According to some of the translations about what occurred, a French worker was questioned by one of the tank commanders about something. I imaging the question was, "Are there any German soldiers about?" His reply was, "NO!" Then a machine gun opened fire on one of the tanks. Either five or six British soldiers were killed. I can account for three RTR men. That page 102 of the KSLI history notes the author watching a commander walking in the Levern area with his map case slung around his neck, that being a perfect target for a sniper. I cannot tell if the author was indicating that this commander was killed or that he could have been killed for this lapse in thinking. Page 101 might clear it up.
    Dave
     
  7. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here is pp. 99-101 of the 4th King's Shropshire Light Infantry history:
     

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  8. hardpanman

    hardpanman New Member

    Again, dryan, thanks for the KSLI pages 99-101. It provides a great counterbalance to the German news articles and the eyewitness accounts of the citizens of Levern.
     
  9. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    No problem. I'm glad to be of help.
     
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