2nd Battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers soldiers Names

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by skimmod, Sep 23, 2010.

  1. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Paul.

    I have done some extensive research on 2 RSF's action in crossing the Garigliano on 17 Jan 44 and their time on this part of the Gustav Line/Cassino front before pushing on to Anzio. Their beach landing at Monte d'Argento was quite a saga.

    If you would like to see this stuff, please send me a PM - I have never worked out how to put stuff on posts.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  2. Spoff

    Spoff Junior Member

    I also remember my father telling me that one of my grandfathers medals had the Bronze Oakleaf cluster, and vaguely remember actually seeing it before they were lost (can't remember too well as I was really young).

    Apparently this is awarded when a soldier gets "mentioned in despatches" by his superior officer for gallantry in the face of the enemy.

    I can't actually prove or remember if this is 100% correct though.
     
  3. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    that's rather an interesting twist. It'd be great to track down what the mention was and when. It'll be in his record.
    As far as replacements are concerned, the best way is when you have his record, that'll tell you what he would have recieved.
     
  4. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Paul.

    The bronze oakleaf is awarded for being Mentioned in Despatches.

    Regards

    FdeP
     
  5. Spoff

    Spoff Junior Member

    Ian.

    I posted off the application for his Service Records today, fingers crossed they come back in a reasonable time.

    I will send you a scanned PDF of them when they come through, there may be some information on there that is useful for you.

    Paul.
     
  6. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Excellent! it might take a while, but well worth the wait!
    Thanks for that, every little helps to put the jogsaw together.

    all the best

    Iain
     
  7. Spoff

    Spoff Junior Member

    A bit more information learned over the weekend from my dad.

    Apparently my grandfather returned to France in the D-day landings (In which I think he may have been transferred to either 6th or 11th battalion RSF, as I can't find any mention of 2RSF at the landings).

    His battalion then pushed through all the way to the outskirts of Berlin and he was there for the the fall of Berlin, where apparently the British let some Russians who wanted to go in first? Apparently Churchill himself turned up, my grandfather was one of the few who got to talk to him and shake hands, then Churchill stood atop a tank and gave a speech.

    This was a story my grandfather told my dad.
     
  8. bleckie

    bleckie Junior Member

    Hi All

    I have just discovered that one of my ancestors served with 2nd Bn Royal Scots Fusiliers but I can find no mention of him anywhere.

    On his marriage certificate in 1919 it states under occupation presently 2nd Lieut Royal Scots Fusiliers. Has anyone coe accross this man, he died in Paris in 1931 working for the imperial war graves comission (CWGC)

    Yours Aye
    BruceL
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Spoff
    Trust you don't mind if I ask you to study the History of the end of Ww2 to find the real facts as the British did NOT stand aside to allow the Russian into Berlin first - as the US president FDR did that with his orders to Eisenhower to allow the Russians to enter Prague - Vienna and Berlin- where they replaced their Troops with Mongol regiments who raped and pillaged for weeks....

    The British and Canadians were sent up to the Hamburg area and the main US troop to Southern Bavaria

    Churchill came into Berlin for the Victory parade in Berlin months later after the allied sectors had been worked out...

    Cheers
     
  10. gralin

    gralin Junior Member

    Hi Iain. Have just joined WW2talk, my fathers name G Graham is on your list for the 2nd battalion RSF, but his number was 3601520, he returned from the war in 1945 I have a story/diary which he wrote about his infantry's involvement in the Battle of the Scheldt in October 1944 whilst allied to the First Canadian Army.should you be interested in reading it, please email me and I will send you a copy.
     
  11. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Thanks Gralin.
    I hope the information I have been able to send in return was of interest?

    best regards

    Iain
    PS. the regimental number was a typo on my behalf... oops!
     
  12. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Hi Bleckie,
    I'm afraid my records are from 1937 onwards. Have you contacted the museum, to see if there is anything on him?
    sorry about that.

    Iain
     
  13. mogey

    mogey Junior Member

    Hope you can help need to find my faters service number so I can apply for service record.What I have is:>
    Name Walter Mason
    Born 28th Nov 1913. Died 8th Jan 1969.
    Stationed Redford Barracks,Colinton Road, Edinburgh.
    in 1939.
    Rank:> Lance Corporal.Extract from marriage certificate.

    On my birth on 15th April 1940,his rank on birth certificate was Lance Sergeant.2nd RSF.
     
  14. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Was he a prisoner of war?
    I have a W.C. Mason number 3127515 he is down in my records as Lance Corporal, but many things happened between April and May 27th, when this man was captured.
    Is this him (see attached?) do you have a better photo?
     

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  15. mogey

    mogey Junior Member

    Hi,
    I don`t think he was a prisoner of war and I have his original birth certificate and there is no middle name,I don`t have any photos of him the last I saw him was about 1948,this was about the time my mum and him split up.I believe he did some time in germany.
     
  16. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    I've been through all the books I have today and Can't find any other W Mason - do you have any other information that might be of use?
     
  17. mogey

    mogey Junior Member

    I appreciate all your help in my research,further to my query re my father it is possible he had a middle intial "C", as on checking births middle names were not always added on birth certificates.Also on his marriage certificate his best man was an,A. Robertson 2nd RSF stationed Redford Barracks 1939.
    Cheers Mogey
     
  18. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    No Worries!
    Corporal A. Robertson escaped to the UK and was in 17 Platoon D Coy. His photo is below.
    So it is possible that he was also in D Coy, 17 platoon, as this may well have been his section commander/ best mate.

    Most of D Coy were captured on the morning of the 28th.

    W.C Mason's attestation book entry is also attached.
     

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  19. mogey

    mogey Junior Member

    Thank you for all your trouble in this matter,it looks like this is the wrong W.Mason,my fathers name was Walter Mason,looks like he has gone of the radar somewhere.On recollection he may have been attched to the quartemaster stores trying to remember things my mother once said.Once again thank you for all your help.
     
  20. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    I had a more thorough look through the books over the weekend and the only other candidate I have is this.
    W. Masson (Sometimes they didn't spell very well in the attestation books!)

    Do you know if he might have served with the Military Police later in the war?

    Otherwise, the only people that might be able to help will be the MOD. write off to them and they might be able to help. As you are the Next Of Kin, they will release the records to you.

    Good luck and if they turn out to be 2RSF, then there will be much more detail in there we can work on together!

    all the best

    Iain
     

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