2nd Battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers soldiers Names

I am assuming that service numers 29***** refer to pre-war Camerons

Only those whose numbers fall within the 2921001 to 2966000 bracket.

Most of the 29***** numbered men on that list originally enlisted into the Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders (for example, 2993072 Fus.T.McLaren, 2976186 Fus.J.O'Neil, 2989245 Fus.R.Pollock, 2975949 Sgt.D.Rodger, 2979052 Fus.J.Simpson, 2989576 Fus.C.Smith and 2986298 Fus.J.M.Munnoch, etc)

Dave

 

Dave,

Thanks. I found the link to Army Numbers (after I'd posted!) and I've tried to help Iain with his list of 2 RSF with Army Numbers originating in other regiments. As you say, there are a fair few A & SH; although the men appear to come from all over - Essex, Devon, Dorset and Lancashire are also involved.

Iain,

Still no joy on the Army records front!

Roxy

 

Looking at Iain's spreadsheet again, I've noticed that my grandad is listed as Pte Roxburgh. If he had transfered to the RSF, would he not have become a Fusilier?

Roxy

 

I think it would depend on his trade.
In my fusilier days (early nineties) the infantry soldiers where Fusiliers, but the drivers, LAD specialists, storemen etc were Privates.

The spreadsheet is going to change again soon! I've managed to write off about 15 names to Newcombes rifles and confirm the identity of the carrier driver that tried to find the battalion during the morning of the 28th.

 

My grandad's records arrived in the post today! I guess that I have a bit of reading to do. I've had a quick look through and the reason for him leaving QOCH and joining RSF has become a little bit clearer. At one point he was CQMS; after FGCM he was sentenced to 84 days and reduced to the ranks; he was then transferred to the RSF; less than 3 weeks later, he was captured.

It seems that the stores were a bit too tempting. They can't all be heroes!

Roxy

 

My grandad's records arrived in the post today! I guess that I have a bit of reading to do. I've had a quick look through and the reason for him leaving QOCH and joining RSF has become a little bit clearer. At one point he was CQMS; after FGCM he was sentenced to 84 days and reduced to the ranks; he was then transferred to the RSF; less than 3 weeks later, he was captured.

It seems that the stores were a bit too tempting. They can't all be heroes!

Roxy

Five years as a PoW, he more than did his bit mate !

 

Drew,

He got captured at Anzio - he did a year as a POW, including a while in hospital as he was wounded on capture. I do not intend to make any judgement on him; he is no longer here to defend himself.

I will deal simply with the facts.

He appears to have spent most of the war at Home - No 1 ITC, Liverpool Scottish and 5 Camerons rising to CQMS. He was reduced to the rank of sgt on his own request just after he was severely reprimanded for the 'rendering and issuing of a totally incorrect AFB 293'; I suspect that he was out of his depth at this point. Nine months later, with 5 Camerons, he was tried by FGCM; the charges were '(i)(v)(vii) WOAS fraudulently misapplying property belonging to a person subject to Mil Law (ii)(iii)(iv)-(v) improperly borrowing money from a private soldier(viii) WOAS Sec 15(i) AA AWOL from 2359hrs 13.8.43 to 0600hrs 16.9.43'. He served 56 days at Chorley, was released to 1st Liverpool Scottish before being sent to the Central Mediterranean Front and compulsory transfer to RSF on 9 May 44.

Roxy

I'm posting stuff relating to my grandfather on another thread rather than hijacking this one:

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/italy/5769-pow-italy-3.html

 

Hi,

My Grandfather Frank Robert ALLEN served in the RSF no.3130522, I have a certificate that he was given by the Red Cross Society and the order of St John of Jerusalem, this is signed by King and Queen. I believe he received this for his service to humanity as a prisoner but do not know how or why he received it. He was B Coy 12 Platoon 2RSF, do you have any photos of his platoon?

Neil

 

Neil,

Frank was reported as a POW along with Cpl Stevenson and Fus Crawford, Evans, Halliday, Kelly, Lockeridge, MacFadzean, Mann, Neale and Welsh in the Times on 30 Oct 1940.

Roxy

 

Good Morning Neil,
I'll drop you a PM with my email. Drop me a line and I can send you, your grandfather's entry in the attestation books and also the times extract.
My grandfather was also in 12 platoon, so they may have known each other. He spent the rest of the war in XXB, working on the farms near Torun.
I have a full account of B companies activities, including the few that made it back from the railway line to the farm with Capt Heisch.

all the best

Iain

 

Sittard War Cemetery

 

Hello folks, just found this site and this is my first post here

looking for info on my grandad who i never met PTE DAVID AVERELL OR EVERELL 2ND Battallion RFS joined 1925?? under age?? hence i think his name a slight deviation from his birth name of everell averell being his irsh family name i know he was in shanghi as there is a story he got a charge for deserting his post after rescuing a local girl from the river he was patroling, giving him favour with locals

any info you can find on his career would be great

regards

jason

 

Hi Jason,
I haven't got the attestation records with me at the moment, I'll see what I can find.
What other information do you have?
How do you know he was a member of the 2nd Bn RSF? do you have a service number or have you applied for his records?
I'll be back when I have the attestation records.
all the best
Iain

 

Cheers

Iain all the info I have is from my conversations with my father and his sisters but do not have his service number

There is an album of photos he bought back from shanghai some quite shocking the executions that were held in public, sure he started in 1925 and left in 1940

Any info you can dig up would be a good starting point for me

I also have some other family to trace one in 1916 ww1 died thepval the somme and another ww2 HLI who died in holland I belive but will start with grandad first

Regards

Jase

 

think i have found his number

780684 d coy 2nd batt RSF military police 3 / nov 1931


where can i gain any info? using number

 

anyone ??

 

Jase,

According to this:

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/research-material/8564-army-number-block-allocations.html

your grandad's Army number belongs to the Royal Artillery; although it is not uncommon for folks to move regiment - my grandad started as a Cameron Highlander in 1927 and ended up in a POW Camp as RSF.

Good luck,

Roxy

 

Jase have you considered applying for his service records? If you can confirm his unit(s) you can then look for their diaries at the National Archives.

 

Hello

My uncle was Sejeant James McCrea 3127816, who died on 11th February 1940, but I know nothing about the circumstances and am keen to know more.

Peter McCrea