2619482 Thomas A Wilmott Grenadier Guards: Help finding details

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  1. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Hello,
    I live in Australia and trying to do some research on my family tree (completely new at this). Thomas Arthur Wilmott is on one of our birth certificates. It has his occupation as a Sergeant in the Grenadier Guards no. 2619482 in 1943
    I was wondering if someone can help or point me in the right direction to find any information.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Cheers,
    Paul
     
  2. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

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  3. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Thanks for the reply Tony.
    I have found that site, unfortunately I have no idea when he died let alone a death certificate.
    Thanks
    Paul
     
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Apart from his name and service number what else do you have?, middle initial of A means ?, any idea of his age or date of birth, he was presumably born in the UK or where?

    Any extra details would help resolve your query

    TD

    Is it Wilmott or Willmott?

    Does anyone know if he married, if so whats the wifes names

    Maybe contact the Grenadier Gazette, someone could perhaps check details - Grenadier Gazette - Grenadier Guards

    Find a Grenadier Ancestor - Grenadier Guards There should be Regimental archives albeit it says that service records are at MOD Army Personnel Centre, Glasgow
     
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  5. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Hi TD
    The details I have are Thomas Arthur Wilmott born 1913-1914. Born United Kingdom. He Married my Nan Dorothy Lydia Calderwood in 1942.
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Well with a few extra details

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Thomas A Wilmott
    Registration Date: Jan 1942
    [Feb 1942]
    [Mar 1942]
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration District: Hendon
    Inferred County: Middlesex
    Spouse: Dorothy L Calderwood
    Volume Number: 3a
    Page Number: 1855

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
    Name: Thomas A Willmott
    Mother's Maiden Name: Dexter
    Registration Year: 1914
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration District: Shardlow
    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
    Inferred County: Derbyshire
    Volume: 7b
    Page: 1145

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Thomas Arthur Wilmott
    Death Age: 82
    Birth Date: 29 Nov 1913
    Registration Date: Jan 1996
    Registration District: Basford
    Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
    Register Number: BS18C
    District and Subdistrict: 6851
    Entry Number: 180


    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Thomas A Wilmott
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 29 Nov 1913
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 8.
    Residence Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
    Occupation: Furniture Upholsterer
    Line Number: 40
    Schedule Number: 67
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: RBRN
    Borough: Long Eaton
    Registration district: 434 B/1
    Inferred Spouse:
    Ivy E Wilmott
    Household Members Age
    Thomas A Wilmott 26
    Ivy E Wilmott
    24

    Ivy his first wife died in 1940 hence the second marriage in 1942
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Ivy E Wilmott
    Death Age: 24
    Birth Date: abt 1916
    Registration Date: Jan 1940
    [Feb 1940]
    [Mar 1940]
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration District: Shardlow
    Inferred County: Derbyshire
    Volume: 7b
    Page: 1288

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Ivy E Ault
    Registration Date: Oct 1936
    [Nov 1936]
    [Dec 1936]
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration District: Shardlow
    Inferred County: Derbyshire
    Spouse: Thomas A Wilmott
    Volume Number: 7b
    Page Number: 1426


    I think thats enough for now plus you have the vital details of his death


    TD

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  7. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Thanks TD, I appreciate your time and effort.
    I was trying to find his birth details and even buy his birth certificate.
    Nothing come up for our family spelling Wilmott, and in 1913, but Willmott (EXTRA L) comes up in 1914. Incorrect spelling common I imagine.

    He is my Grandad and I know very little. He left Nan when my Dad was about 3, took Dads brother Roy (few yrs older) Wilmott with him. Dad never followed it up and never knew his Dad or brother. Dad joined the Navy and ended up moving here to Australia.

    This site helped me learn about Nans brother in ww2 and the battle that took his life. Thanks for your help guys.
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    There are something like 14 trees on Ancestry which include Thomas but some only show his first marriage, some only show his second, and as is usual many are just 'click and accept' details from other trees without checking details

    So if you do look through suggest you be selective - some of the trees are private therefore you would need to join/subscribe to Ancestry before you can contact some tree owners directly

    You may already know this but just trying to cover bases

    TD
     
  9. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    There is a will here for a Thomas Arthur WILMOTT who died 12 Jan 1996. Probate in Manchester, so right half of England. Costs £ 1.50 & arrives online in about 2 weeks.
    Find a will | GOV.UK
     
  10. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Thanks TD , I am on ancestry and have been reluctant to add people without some documentation to back it up. I expect to subscribe when I have filled in as much as I can.
     
  11. Paul_W

    Paul_W Member

    Perfect, thank you. I ordered it and look forward to reading its content. Cheers for that.
     

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