Reference LST 139: looks like the chap might well have misremembered the 139 albeit it mentions in None Had Lances that the reason he remembered it was that the numbers add up to 13 (1+3+9=13) which is an 'unlucky number'....but then LST 229 also adds up to 13 ! The search continues. Steve Edit: incidentally, I've always wondered about the significance, if any, of the LST Number markings. I've always thought that it was something to do with their Division etc.
Thanks Danny. Appreciated. .....and no subsequent entry for LTIN 2926 ? 2926 is definitely mentioned in the Loading Table and implied by '6 LSTs' in None Had Lances. Possibly it was a late addition - after the Landing Tables being quoted had been prepared. Curious.
Steve, Late additions to the Landing Tables are not unheard of. Between the mid-April 44 version and the last known issue of the JUNO Landing Tables (dated 2 May 44) for example, various major changes occurred including the deletion of some LTINs and the addition of new ones, with further changes being prescribed via Amendments up to 20 May, which was the official limit for Amendments. Some further changes probably took place until the last moment, but whether these late modifications were documented or not is hard to tell because traces of them are elusive. Michel
Hi, The odd copy of the amended sheets do turn up in some of the War Diaries but I have yet to find a full set of the amended sheets for Gold or Sword Beaches. You also find that some units extracted the information they needed from the LTIN sheet and put this information in their orders for Overlord. A few of these exist in the War Diaries. I would be interested to hear if anyone has found a set of the amended sheets in one of the archives. Attached is one of the amended sheets for 2 Lincolns. Regards Danny
I had all but forgotten about this extract from the 56 Inf Bde Op Order as found in Holborn's thesis referenced in my penultimate post, showing LTIN 2926: So does the 50 Div Op Order dated 9 May 44: Michel
Danny Superb! Do you have the same information for LTIN 2921 ? Also, what's the source of that information? Thanks again Steve
Hi, The information came from the units War Diaries. So far I have only found a couple of pieces that mention LTIN 2921. In the 953 IWT Op Coy War Diary it has the following information on LST arriving at Jig & King Beach’s with their Rhinos. LST arrived between 10.00hrs and 16.30hrs. 1st Tide Jig & King Beach LST 17, 21, 25, 72, 73, 264, 280, 312, 344, 345, 370. 2nd Tide Jig & King Beach LST 30, 503. It does not mention what tide the following LST were due to land at. LST 229. Tow to Rhino broke and the Rhino returned to Cowes. LST carried on to Normandy. LST 377 and LST 520 did not tow Rhinos to Normandy. Regards Danny
Hi, Thought you might be interested in seeing this extract from 2nd Bn Cheshire Regiment War Diary. Regards Danny
Excellent Danny! No doubt whatsoever now that LTIN 2926 was used on D Day. Finding which US LST it was is the next challenge. No luck my side so far... Michel
From: GOLD BEACH. For the 24th Lancers... 24 Lancers. 11 Stuart Light Tank. 53 Sherman Tank. 1 Sherman ARV. 5 M14 Halftrack. 2 Scout Car. 12 3ton 4 X 4 GS. 2 Jeep. 3 Motorcycle. 326 men from 24 Lancers 24 Lancers Signals Section RS 1 Jeep with 2 crew. 1 15cwt with 3 crew. 24 Lancers LAD REME. 2 3ton 4 X 4 GS with 12 crew. 1 Tractor Breakdown with 5 crew. 1 15cwt GS. Albeit - compared with - There's a marked difference in the number of Shermans counted there. With 53 (or 54 if it includes the ARV) vs. (49+12=61) I wonder what accounts for the disparity? Whereas the number of Stuarts are matched.
D-DAY - BRITISH FORCES DURING THE INVASION OF NORMANDY 6 JUNE 1944 A23902 DESCRIPTION Object description The Free French River-Class frigate FFL LA SURPRISE K 292 (formerly HMS TORRIDGE) and LSTs (Landing Ship Tank) off Gold assault area, 6 June 1944.