24th Lancers - LST Query

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  1. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Reference LST 139: looks like the chap might well have misremembered the 139 albeit it mentions in None Had Lances that the reason he remembered it was that the numbers add up to 13 (1+3+9=13) which is an 'unlucky number'....but then LST 229 also adds up to 13 !

    The search continues.

    Steve

    Edit: incidentally, I've always wondered about the significance, if any, of the LST Number markings. I've always thought that it was something to do with their Division etc.
     
  2. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    The last sheet for LTIN 2925. Dated 12th April 1944.

    Regards

    Danny

    3  56  Inf  Bde (16)  C.jpg
     
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  3. SDP

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    Thanks Danny. Appreciated.

    .....and no subsequent entry for LTIN 2926 ?

    2926 is definitely mentioned in the Loading Table and implied by '6 LSTs' in None Had Lances. Possibly it was a late addition - after the Landing Tables being quoted had been prepared. Curious.
     
  4. Steve,

    Late additions to the Landing Tables are not unheard of. Between the mid-April 44 version and the last known issue of the JUNO Landing Tables (dated 2 May 44) for example, various major changes occurred including the deletion of some LTINs and the addition of new ones, with further changes being prescribed via Amendments up to 20 May, which was the official limit for Amendments. Some further changes probably took place until the last moment, but whether these late modifications were documented or not is hard to tell because traces of them are elusive.

    Michel
     
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  5. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    The odd copy of the amended sheets do turn up in some of the War Diaries but I have yet to find a full set of the amended sheets for Gold or Sword Beaches.

    You also find that some units extracted the information they needed from the LTIN sheet and put this information in their orders for Overlord. A few of these exist in the War Diaries.

    I would be interested to hear if anyone has found a set of the amended sheets in one of the archives.

    Attached is one of the amended sheets for 2 Lincolns.

    Regards

    Danny

    2  Lincolns  a.jpg 2 Lincolns  e.jpg
     
  6. I had all but forgotten about this extract from the 56 Inf Bde Op Order as found in Holborn's thesis referenced in my penultimate post, showing LTIN 2926:
    GOLD JIG - 2nd Wave - Appx 'D' to 56 Inf Bde  OO No 1- Order of Beaching - Holborn's Thesis p287.jpg

    So does the 50 Div Op Order dated 9 May 44:
    GOLD JIG & KING - 2nd Wave - LT - LCT(L)=LCI(L).jpg

    Michel
     
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  7. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    A couple of the units that went over on LTIN 2926.

    Regards

    Danny

    1  50  Div  Signals  ed.jpg 1  Dorsets  ed.jpg
     
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  8. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Danny

    Superb! Do you have the same information for LTIN 2921 ?

    Also, what's the source of that information?

    Thanks again
    Steve
     
  9. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    The information came from the units War Diaries.

    So far I have only found a couple of pieces that mention LTIN 2921.

    In the 953 IWT Op Coy War Diary it has the following information on LST arriving at Jig & King Beach’s with their Rhinos.

    LST arrived between 10.00hrs and 16.30hrs.

    1st Tide Jig & King Beach
    LST 17, 21, 25, 72, 73, 264, 280, 312, 344, 345, 370.

    2nd Tide Jig & King Beach
    LST 30, 503.

    It does not mention what tide the following LST were due to land at.
    LST 229. Tow to Rhino broke and the Rhino returned to Cowes. LST carried on to Normandy.
    LST 377 and LST 520 did not tow Rhinos to Normandy.

    Regards

    Danny
    1   DSCF0908  2  Devons  ED.jpg 2   PICT1943  Notts  Yeomanry  Ed.jpg
     
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  10. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    Thought you might be interested in seeing this extract from 2nd Bn Cheshire Regiment War Diary.

    Regards

    Danny

    LTIN  2926  A.jpg LTIN  2926  B.jpg
     
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  11. Excellent Danny!

    No doubt whatsoever now that LTIN 2926 was used on D Day.

    Finding which US LST it was is the next challenge. No luck my side so far...

    Michel
     
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