224 SQUADRON POST WAR LOSS

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  1. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Is anyone aware of a 224 squadron loss - probably a Halifax - fling out of Gibraltar on 5th March 1949. The only information I have is that the pilot or co-pilot was killed. His name was Maksymilian Cichoszewski and he was a former wartime pilot in 304 Squadron.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  3. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    5 March 1949

    RAF North Front Gibraltar

    Halifax RG850 - Met6

    224 Squadron

    Casuaties 5

    Pilot 1 James Stewart Weaterton
    Pilot 1 Maksymillan Cichoszweski
    Believed to be
    Graham Evans
    Robert George Henry Radford
    Plus one other

    Final Landings - C. Cummings
     
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  4. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your help
     
  5. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Just an added point,

    No 224 Squadron was based at Aldergrove but had regular detachments to Gib between the reforming of squadron in March 1948 until it converted to the Shackleton MR 1 in July 1951
     
  6. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Would the death certificates for those killed in this crash be issued in Gibraltar or in England. I need to get a copy in order to get the pilot's military records. I had thought that when they died in service this was not necessary but they have told me that they need proof of his death.
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Not quite the final info you need but may help, as you cannot have probate without a certified death

    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
    Name: Maksymilian Cichoszewski
    [Max Cichoszewski]
    Death Date: 5 Mar 1949
    Death Place: Gibraltar
    Probate Date: 28 Jun 1950
    Registry: London, England
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    Not sure where you would actually obtain a copy of his death cert from??

    TD

    added - as a guess I would say Gibraltar would issue the certificate

    you could email -
    ARCHIVES - Government office
    Convent Courtyard
    Secretary's Lane
    Office of the Chief Minister: 200 47592
    Archivist (Tel/Fax): 200 79461
    Email: gibarchives@gibtelecom.net


    OR



    Civil Status and Registration Office
    The Civil Status and Registration Office is responsible for the administration and registration of a range of issues and events relating to Gibraltarian citizens. The main areas of concern for the office include marriage and civil partnerships, passports, Visas, ID Cards and Civilian Registration Cards, as well as the registration of births and deaths that occur within the community.
    For further enquiries, please email csro@gibraltar.gov.gi
     
  8. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    I would think that the access to casualty DCs is the present MOD who would raise the DCs.

    As I see it,this was also the procedure for those whose death occurred abroad by any means,either as a result of enemy action or not and covered POWs dying in captivity.Some DCs as a result can contain sparse information especially when the source of information is enemy records.....special investigations,I would think may reveal more detail of a death.
     
  9. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Thank you TD that is a tremendous start!
     
  10. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Thank you Harry Ree,

    I am not concerned particularly with the specific details. I just need evidence of his death in order to obtain his military records.
     
  11. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Thank you Harry Ree,

    I am not concerned particularly with the specific details. I just need evidence of his death in order to obtain his military records.
     
  12. archivist

    archivist Well-Known Member

    Things just got a bit more complicated! He was flying a British (RAF) plane which crashed in Spain but the bodies were removed to Gibraltar and buried there. Still on the trail of that death certificate!
     
  13. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Up to 1948 the deaths were recorded in the RAF War deaths Overseas List 1939-1948

    I think that the services records were lumped together in the Deaths Overseas Index from 1949 onwards.

    If listed here then you can get a DC copy from the GRO at Liverpool.

    Check the nearest local list (none in Durham)
    Tyne and Wear Newcastle City Library Princess Square, Newcastle Upon Tyne NE99 1DX Tel: 0191 277 4100 Births 1837–2013; Marriages 1837–2013; Deaths 1837–2013; Overseas 1761-2013; Civil Partnerships 2005-2013; Adoptions 1927-2013; Provisional Indexes for the most recent Births and Deaths records

    Northumberland & Durham FHS 2nd Floor, Bolbec Hall, Westgate Road, Newcastle Upon Tyne NE1 1SE Tel: 0191 261 2159 Births 1837-2003; Marriages 1837-2003; Deaths 1837-2003; Overseas

    Full local holdings list here
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...e/423368/PublicHoldersofGROIndexesApril15.pdf

    Ross
     

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