207 Squadron - Gibbs Crew - Lost July 1944

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  1. John Geenty

    John Geenty Member

    Hi Guys,
    I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. I'm researching the crew of Lancaster III ND.570 from 207 Squadron, lost 5th July 1944. The crew included a relative of mine (Sergeant Robert J. Norman) and were all killed when the aircraft was shot down apart from a Canadian crewmember named Robert Inglis. I have the various official details recorded, but I'm trying to track down any photos of the crew or individuals from the crew or surviving family members. Does anyone have a suggestion of where some photographs might be found? The full crew was;

    Flight Sergeant J.W. Gibbs
    Sergeant R.J. Norman
    Sergeant N.L. Wood
    Sergeant E.R. Inglis
    Flight Sergeant D.R. Croker
    Sergeant D.W. Rawson
    Sergeant J.F. Edwards

    Many thanks!
    John
     
  2. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Hello and welcome.
    I presume you have Googled for Lancaster ND570?
    This website details the attack, by 231 Lancasters on the V1 assembly facility.
    That would have been a huge priority target, given that the V1 campaign was in full flow, and why, despite it being a bright moonlit night the attack went ahead, knowing full well that fighter attacks would be fierce. It appears they used 2 different exit routes to minimise losses, with 13 being lost, probably acceptable for the need to destroy the target.
    Were you aware that a virtual namesake also died that very same night on the same raid?
    NORMAN, ROBERT JOHN. Sergeant (Flight Engineer). Service Number 1136617. Died 05/07/1944. Aged 32.
    207 Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Husband of Doris Margaret Norman, of New Ferry, Cheshire.
    Buried at ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION. Plot 7. Row C. Grave 5.
    and
    NORMAN, ROBERT HENRY. Flight Sergeant (Navigator). Service Number 1394301. Died 05/07/1944. Aged 24.
    463 (R.A.A.F.) Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Thomas Hodgson Norman and Mabel Mary Norman, of Eltham, London.
    Buried at ELLECOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY. Collective Grave (all 7 men).

    What a strange coincidence, it's that that common a surname (although it might be in that part of the world! - 1066 and all that).

    Have you already obtained his Service record, which might throw a bit more information for you?
    Inglis may also have completed a Liberation Questionnaire which may still be available in the Canadian archives.
     
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  3. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

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  4. HA96

    HA96 Member

    Did I miss something, or is it my ignorance?
    Where was the crash site?

    Stefan.
     
  5. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Crash site not known, possibly offshore near Dieppe, maybe CWGC have details as to where Sgt Norman's body was initially found?
    He may have been washed ashore, but now buried in Abbeville.
    Had it been on land, it ought to have been located by now.
     
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  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Flight Sergeant CROKER, DESMOND RIMMER
    Service Number 1077090

    Died 05/07/1944

    207 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of George Alfred and Gladys Mary Croker, of Blackpool, Lancashire.
    Casualty
    Panel 216
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  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Flight Sergeant GIBBS, JOHN WILLIAM
    Service Number 1585370

    Died 05/07/1944

    Aged 22

    207 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas H. Gibbs, of Knowle, Bristol.
    Casualty
    Panel 217
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  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Sergeant WOOD, NORMAN LESLIE
    Service Number 1580620

    Died 05/07/1944

    Aged 23

    207 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of George and Florence Wood, of Acocks Green, Birmingham.
    Casualty
    Panel 231
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  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Sergeant EDWARDS, JOHN FRANCIS PATRICK
    Service Number 1897034

    Died 05/07/1944

    Aged 19

    207 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Francis John and Kathleen Edwards, of Camberwell, London.
    Casualty
    Panel 228

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  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Sergeant RAWSON, DONALD WILLIAM
    Service Number 1592699

    Died 05/07/1944

    Aged 19

    207 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Frank and Eva Gertrude Rawson, of Burton Pidsea, Yorkshire.
    Casualty
    Panel 236
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