1st Polish Armored Div.

Discussion in 'Poland' started by tbar, May 10, 2008.

  1. tbar

    tbar Junior Member

    Hi,
    I am getting mixed signals on the hardware//uniforms worn by the 1st Polish Armored Div at the battle of the Falaise pocket.
    Some info says the US equipped the Poles, but I know that Great Britain also clothed the Poles in Italy in their battledress.
    Can some one give me the real skinny on what gear/uniforms they wore. I want to do a Brit universal carrier with crew, but I also want it to be correct.
    Thanks,
    DocB
    :huh:
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Welcome to the site tbar.

    They'd wear and use British kit.
    I've meant to buy this book but haven't yet.
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  3. tbar

    tbar Junior Member

    Many, many thanks, Owen.
    Now I can proceed without qualms regarding accuracy.
    DocB
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Article about a model of a 1st Polish Armd Div Carrier.

    AMPS - The Armor Modeling and Preservation Society

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    Some info on markings here.
    Hobby


    Scroll down this page, a few more Polish carriers.
    Captain Kazimierz DUDA's web site - 1st Polish Armoured Division - WW2


    Lovely colour photo of one in Holland.
    1e Poolse Pantserdivisie


    A rather grainy shot of a carrier here.

    Breda liberated, 1944: Sunday afternoon October 29th.


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    The first bren carrier with infantrymen in the Eindstraat. Meanwhile the first inhabitants have shown up, welcoming the liberators.

    The photographer has moved to a balcony on the first floor.
     
  5. tbar

    tbar Junior Member

    Thanks again...I think I will do a carrier with the recce 45 tac mark for the 10th mounted rifles. I have a decal for the "45" but I suppose I will have to freehand the 1st Polish Armored Div one.
    DocB
     
  6. mahross

    mahross Senior Member

    The Poles were all equipped with British equipment. They do of course use Sherman etc but they are supplied through the British and not directly by the US. I would suggest the book that Owen points out. A very good account.

    Ross
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  8. tbar

    tbar Junior Member

    Many thanks to all you fellas...the reason I have been so quiet is that I joined several forums some time ago and was active on one in particular, but had some trouble with them, procedural, not political or hate mongering, which was fixed, but never got a "sorry", an apology, or anything...
    I'm getting too old for that kind of treatment, especially after what I been through.
    Thanks again...
    DocB (tbar)
     
  9. Combover

    Combover Guest

    I know that this is an an old topic, but i'm hoping the author is still on here.

    Firstly, the Poles were equipped by the British Army. They had British Battledress, webbing and equipment. Their tanks were largely British equipped Shermans and some units had Cromwells. General Maczecks command tank was a Cromwell.

    In order to do a 1st Polish Arnoured Div impression, you need to pick a specific unit. The units that had Bren Carriers are as follows:

    10th Dragoons
    1st Rifle Podhalanskich batallion
    8th Rifle Batallion
    9th Rifle Batallion
    Machine Gun Company

    Each of the above units had Cavalry Penons on their collars. As most were part of a Polish pre-war cavalry unit, they kept their colours to denote which unit they belonged to. Each was a different combination of colours.

    In terms of the battledress, either 37 pattern or 40 pattern is acceptable. The left epaulette is black, the insignia was a POLISH title on each shoulder and the Scaracens Head insignia on the left sleeve. Plus the above mentioned pennons.

    Headress was a steel helmet with a Polish eagle stencil on the front. Soft headress was a black beret (as it was an armoured division) with a polish army in exile cap badge.

    I am currently putting a 1st Armoured Div battledress together. It's a work in progress but I can ive pictures of it if you wish.
     
  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Welcome to the site tbar.

    They'd wear and use British kit.
    I've meant to buy this book but haven't yet.
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    a good book to read
    and can be picked up fairly cheaply
     
  11. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    a good book to read
    and can be picked up fairly cheaply

    I agree Clive. An excellent read. Last year, I had the pleasure of meeting one of the Vets who helped liberate the place where my Mum was living and working. When I thanked him and explained why, he gave me a big hug and kissed me on both cheeks. :lol:
     
  12. andrewgfrench

    andrewgfrench Member

    Hi all,

    I've an account of a Polish armoured unit sustaining several casualties during Exercise LINK in UK 1943. The Poles apparently advanced straight through the covering barrage laid down by the R.A., the unit being 145 (Berks Yeo) Fd Regt. Had anyone heard of a similar incedent?

    Regards
    Andrew French
     

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