1st Bn K.O.Y.L.I.

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by Kieron Hill, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Just picked up a nice little collection belonging
    to a Private in the KOYLI, includes (6) medals, photos
    and paperwork. some of the photos are copies
    probably picked up on his travels. India, Sicily, Italy
    and Palestine.

    Maybe someone (Owen) might be able to identify
    the officer in the photo taken in Palestine on
    Minden Day August 1st 1943, the other chap I think
    is the gentlemen of whom the collection belonged
    to.
     

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  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Kieron -
    The officer could be MIles Dempsey - 5th (Globe Trotters) Div before they went to Sicily for the invasion of Italy - September 3rd '43...
    Cheers
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    The Officer on the left has the 5th Div Y on his sleeve.
    It can't be Palestine 1/ 8 /43 as they were fighting on Sicily then.

    It must be 1-8-1944
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Looking in Div History I'd say if it is Aug 44 that would be Maj-Gen PGS Gregson-Ellis CB OBE .
    Is a portrait of him in Div History.

    5th Infantry Division [British] 1939-1945

    General Officer Commanding (GOC)
    03.09.1939
    Maj.Gen. H.E. Franklyn
    19.07.1940
    Maj.Gen. H.P.M. Berney-Ficklin
    03.08.1943
    Maj.Gen. G.C. Bucknall
    22.01.1944
    Maj.Gen. P.G.S. Gregson-Ellis
    21.04.1944 (acting)
    Brig. L.M. Campbell
    29.04.1944
    Maj.Gen. P.G.S. Gregson-Ellis
    24.11.1944
    Maj.Gen. R.A. Hull
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Sorry it's blurred but here he is.


    Maj.Gen. P.G.S. Gregson-Ellis

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    I think Owen's photo looks more like the chap. Dempsey is a close second.
     
  7. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Typo on my behalf just come off changing the
    disc's and pads on the car so all fingers and thumbs :(
    It is dated 44

    Picture attached is his medal entitlement, never worn
    in the original grease proof packets and original box.
     

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  8. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    These are acouple more of the pictures, as
    I said not sure if these are originals but copies
    he would have brought.

    Picture 2 Invasion of Sicily

    Picture 1 On the road to Palermo Allied troops welcomed
     

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  9. Richard Harrison

    Richard Harrison Senior Member

    My Grandad served with 2/4th KOYLI 46th Div. prior to that 2nd bat RSF 5th div so its always nice to see some reference to either 5th div or the KOYLI. cheers for posting them up.
     
  10. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Kieron - the France and Germany star looks a bit odd as the 5th Div - and I would presume 1sr KOYLI - went off from Italy to Palestine in the July '44 - they were in crying need of a rest and re-fit after Anzio and went off to Palestine whereas 78th and 56th went off to Egypt and returned to Italy in the September '44 - the 5th stayed in Palestine under Maj.Gen Hull until the end of the war.

    So Owen would be right that this was a picture of Gregson Ellis in Italy

    Cheers
     
  11. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Tom not to sure if the KOYLI were with the Division at
    the time, but after the rest in Palestine they did a
    quick hop to Italy and then became part of "Operation
    Goldflake" which saw them join the 21st Army in Norht
    West Europe
     
  12. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Kieron

    That would explain the France and Germany Star then as I thought it was only the 1st Div that went on to NW Europe...
    Cheers
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    1st Div that went on to NW Europe...
    No Tom they stayed in Palestine.

    1st Division

    Italy: 7.12.43 - 27.1.45
    At Sea: 28.1.45 - 1.2.45
    Palestine: 2.2.45 - 31.8.45

    5th Div.
    5th Division

    Italy: 3.9.43 - 3.7.44
    At Sea: 3.7.44 - 9.7.44
    Egypt: 9.7.44 - 13.7.44
    Palestine: 14.7.44 - 8.2.45
    At Sea: 9.2.45 - 15.2.45
    Italy: 15.2.45 - 27.2.45
    At Sea: 27.2.45 - 2.3.45
    NW Europe: 2.3.45 - 31.8.45

    They advanced to Lubeck.
    BU 4990
    Infantry of 2nd Wiltshire Regiment, 5th Division, supported by Churchill tanks of 6th Guards Tank Brigade, clear a pocket of resistance south of Lubeck, 2 May 1945.
     

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  14. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Thanks everyone for your input much appreciated :)

    Cheers
    Kieron
     

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