1939 Register - now online

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by Red Goblin, Mar 12, 2015.

  1. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    Red Goblin,

    You're right, I'm in no hurry to get a death cert. Anyway I don't suppose they'll have broadband where I end up, so it won't be of use!
  2. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

  3. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    a timely reminder of split families being registered at well-separated addresses ... @ £7 a pop but likely more given the ages of the children involved probably resulting in redaction ! - hence this comment on YouTube:​
  4. Blutto

    Blutto Plane Mad

    Shan't be blowing my cash on these records, they also lag well behind in terms of unlocking records post death. Really can't see what the excitement has been about. If they could only give me something useful covering Suffolk in the late 1600s and early 1700 I might find something new.
  5. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    OT, I know, but thought you might also like to know about Ancestry's Remembrance Free Access now running through to Wed 11th - just their military records but just the opportunity I've been looking for to laboriously download a 720pp RE war diary page-by-page at home rather than tackle the job episodically over a number of 2hr library sessions. I only found out by a chance search visit since Ancestry killed their RSS news feed yonks ago !
  6. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Tip: Just a word of warning, in case needed, that the personal ID nature of the Register by no means guaranteed age-accuracy any more than a regular census - something I noticed, only yesterday, in finding a vain step-relative of mine pretending to be 21 rather than 22. It may therefore pay you, if having problems along these lines and especially if dealing with popular/common names, to just fill in your target's birthday (in the advanced search form's day & month fields) and leave the year field either completely blank or at least given ample leeway.
  7. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    OK, we're now a week after launch - high time, methinks, to cease echoing these 'vamp until ready' Register-tagged 'lifestyle' blog entries and maybe just await and stick to directly-relevant announcements like (wishfully-thinking here) cessation of surcharges and sub-licensing deals to the likes of Ancestry

    Meanwhile, I'm also curious to see whether FMP honour their update review promise* to, a week into the new year at the latest, pro-actively open their entry for a certain ex-relative of mine born 28 Oct 1915 (registration indexed 1915 Q4 and so still crudely subject to the 100yr rule for the rest of this year).
    * ref. penultimate paragraph of answer to FAQ 'Open & Closed record - can you summarise this for me ?':
  8. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    From TNA's fence-sitting November enewsletter:
  9. Reid

    Reid Historian & Architectural Photographer

    Hmmm, neither my grandfather nor grandmother appear in the search results and I've checked +/-5 years around their birthdates. I guess I'm doing something wrong, but honestly how hard can it be?
  10. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    A certain well-known derogatory phrase, linking 'organise' to 'brewery', comes readily to mind re FMP ! I/we can maybe lend a hand if you're willing to share everything relevant you've got to go on ... by PM if you'd rather not go public.

  11. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Apparently at long last making the awaited U-turn on patently ripping off their subscribers, FMP's owner, D C Thomson, sent me this newsletter on Friday:
    View attachment 2016-02-19 - email - Unlimited access to the 1939 Register (Genes Reunited) via Word.pdf
    I can't find a web copy of it on GR/FMP but the change did at least merit a forum mention here:
    Free FMP - General Chat - Boards - Genes Reunited

    So maybe most of us can now look forward to finally gaining full access over FMP's next free w/e this summer/autumn ?

  12. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Excellent news Steve. Thanks for the info. Heard today that Scotlandspeople will be putting the 1930 Valuation Rolls on line later this year. Not near as good as a census return, but it's the closest archive yet to the war years.
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Friends Romans and other geneo's

    In the 1939 Register how can I search for a street within a town for example, do I just input the street/road name and the town its in??


    Is there some map somewhere that you can zoom in and find the street then read off its enumeration district code type thingy, then input that ??

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  14. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    I tried various ways without success. You can do it on FMP as they have -search address and search person.
    But then perhaps I was doing it all wrong :banghead:
  15. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    A REALLY smart fellow living in France told me you could just enter the address under "keyword" and it would take you to that page.

    And, he was right.
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  16. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    I can't quite believe I'm the first to notice but, thanks to Diane's comment piquing my curiosity by apparently referring to a problematic source other than FMP, a quick search turned up this belated news that broke last May 8 ...
    1939 Register on Ancestry | Genealogy Specialists
    ... with a surprising lack of fanfare stretching to Ancestry UK Blog only getting around to featuring it on May 24 @
    1939 England and Wales Register (the blog entry).
    Another irony is that I wasn't receiving their blog alerts having given up on their RSS feed after it appeared to die neglected ages ago.

    The weirdness even extends to Ancestry UK not featuring it on their website's home page - talk about hiding your light under a bushel! So, to save anyone wanting to try it having to get there through the Card Catalogue - even though, fortunately, no scrolling is currently required to spot it there - here's a direct link incidentally dated May 7;
    1939 England and Wales Register (the real deal).

    I have a sneaky suspicion, however, that American pressure swung this deal despite FMP's direct sales attempts as featured on a Legacy Family Tree webinar a year or so ago IIRC.

    So, now at long last, those of us whose local library services refuse to pay FMP's modular fees can finally get access through ALE as the option still preferred by most as both simpler and cheaper.

    Also, having long thought Ancestry's more mature search tools generally more powerful and user-friendly than FMP's, I accordingly invite those of you who can to at least see if you agree at your local library ...

    Bon chance,
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  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The biggest problem for me is Americans transcribing a UK document of this nature, the only way I could find my father on the Ancestry search in the 39 Register was to trace him through his father and work back, otherwise I would never have found him.

    TBH I am really running out of patience with Ancestry and will not correct any of there errors - unless they wish to pay me in some way - lets see if there are any offers

  18. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    I only use Ancestry or FMP when they have a free weekend. However I now think that, for me, FMP is my prefered choice.

    Yes it also has transcription errors and I have recently sent them a couple of corrections.

    I prefer their 1939 register as I can imput a street name e.g Belmont Road Fleetwood MB, without a house number or name of the inhabitants. and iI then provides me with all the house numbers in that road and with a click I can find out who lived at no 34 etc.
    (Confess haven't figured out if you can do this with Ancestry without entering each house number)

    I found this interesting as my parents moved into 32 Belmont Road soon after the Register was compiled.

    Many of the people were still living in the road in 1947 when I was born and became my neighbours whilst I was growing up

    It brought back a lot or memories.

    Perhaps not quite its intended use but it worked for me.

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  19. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Hmm, neither lot is ideal and I'm an opportunistic firm believer in horses for courses so do please feel free to use whichever search tools float your boat ... but the bottom line is that now a lot of us Brits can almost certainly get more value from our Council Taxes by going and collecting our finds from our local libraries rather than relying on promotional handout weekends offering what we want - chaqu'un à son gout &c !

  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Red Goblin

    Also need to realise Ancestry has trouble counting -- on a search earlier

    7 results

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007 4
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 2

    4 + 2 makes a total count of ??


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