1939 1945 Star Engraving help.

Discussion in 'General' started by John Sage, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. John Sage

    John Sage New Member

    Hi. New to the group. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Trying to work out what the following first and last line would mean on a medal.
    1st line F5022
    2nd line A.G.Temple.
    3rd line A.M.I.B.N.A.S.

    The B in the middle could be an R and the impression is not clear.

    I appreciate this would most likely of been done by the recipient but any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    Kind regards

    John
     
  2. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    A quick google would suggest Air Mechanic 1st Class, Royal Naval Air Service.

    Not to be taken as gospel, but again, wikipedia would suggest that that would be WW1 organisation? Merged with RFC to form the RAF in 1918.

    First line is id number I think.

    An odd one for a 39-45 star though??
     
  3. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Royal Naval Air Service RNAS
    Name: Temple, Alfred George
    Official Number: F5022
    Place of Birth: Deptford, London
    Date of Birth: 08 June 1884

    He would have been 55 years old at outbreak of the Second World War.

    His First World War service records are available to download from the National Archives.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
  4. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    Re 1939-1945 Star engraving

    First time I've heard of engraving on a standard 1939-1945 medal.

    I've got a standard rack of 5 ww2 medals and certainly none were engraved

    Ron

    ps
    Or is it just a case of a posting being wrongly placed in a forum and this is a WW! medal enquiry ?
     
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  5. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    John,

    Any chance you could post an image of the medal concerned? Thanks.

    Mark
     
  6. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    I think the key part of the OP’s query is in his last sentence where he suggests the “engraving” was most likely done by the recipient.

    If that is his only WW2 medal it is likely self awarded as if he did serve he should also have the War Medal (at least).

    Steve
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Royal Air Force Airmen Records, 1918-1940
    Name: Alfred George Temple
    Gender: Male
    Age: 30
    Birth Date: 8 Jun 1884
    Birth Place: Deptford, London, England
    Service Date: 26 May 1915
    Service Number: 205022
    Spouse: Josephine Temple
    Next of Kin: Josephine Temple
    Relation to Airman: Wife

    Cant download his file as I do not have Fold3 membership

    This might be his start in military life
    UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
    Name: Alfred George Temple
    Gender: Male
    Birth Date: 8 Jun 1884
    Birth Place: Deptford, London
    First Service Date: 30 Oct 1901
    First Ship Served On: Excellent
    Last Service Date: 16 Jan 1905
    Last Ship Served On: Firequeen
    Service Number: 359863
    43343_546_0-00362.jpg

    TD
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Alfred G Temple
    Gender: Male
    Marital Status: Married
    Birth Date: 8 Jun 1884
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: Hill Rd Eccleston
    Residence Place: Chester, Cheshire, England
    Occupation: Butler
    Schedule Number: 68
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: LGDE
    Registration district: 450A/1/5
    Inferred Spouse: Elizabeth J Temple
    Household Members:
    Name
    Alfred G Temple
    Elizabeth J Temple

    His wifes name doesnt match but he could have married a second time - his date of birth certainly matches

    TD
     
  9. John Sage

    John Sage New Member

    Good morning all. Thank you so much for all your efforts. Much appreciated. I had been looking at two sets of medals last night which had been awarded to a friends father and grandfather. Blame it on the wine and the lateness of the hour but I dId get mixed up. It is the WW1 Star.

    I will pass on the information to him shortly.

    Regards

    John
     
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